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    [QUOTE=vince123123]I rest my case


    Well is just a general discussions, Peace

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    My sensing is that the IP laws regarding photography in Singapore are quite vague and open to a lot of interpretation. I have asked a lawyer specialising in IP law on a similar issue before, and my understanding is that photos of CHIJMES or any other building per se are not illegal. However both parties have certain rights regarding the usage of the photos taken. ie if we wish to take these photos and produce postcards or for use as our portfolio, then we have to seek permission from CHIJMES. But this does not mean that they own your photograph. You still own your photograph, only that they have a say on how you use the photo since it contains something that they own.

    However, the issue is not that clear cut. From what I was told, unless the photo contains something that uniquely identifies the place it was taken (eg a signature dish, piece of architecture or signage), the owner of the premises should have very little legal say in your use of the photo. For instance, there is nothing wrong with standing behind a window in a restaurant and taking a photo of clouds, because the same photo can reasonably be taken from a million other locations.

    That being said, as photographers it is important to be respectful and not throw legal rights in the face of people when they are uncomfortable with us taking pictures. You may have won the battle in terms of legality, but in the end create another enemy of the photography world. And even if they can't stop you on the grounds of copyright, they can always stop you on the grounds of being a public nuisance or some other obscure right they may have. When relations and interactions are cordial, nobody will throw the law in our faces, so in the end it really boils down how well we are able to strike up a relationship with the people around us, and how much they trust our intentions.

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    Tried 'shooting' two TPs by their BMW the other day and was told off...and almost have to have my id checked.....really, its in public place, at the NUS bus stop at AYE.....thought the cars streaking pass would make nice effects in the backgrd of the men in blues.....will sneak up next time rather than in the open...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danntbt
    Tried 'shooting' two TPs by their BMW the other day and was told off...and almost have to have my id checked.....really, its in public place, at the NUS bus stop at AYE.....thought the cars streaking pass would make nice effects in the backgrd of the men in blues.....will sneak up next time rather than in the open...
    Imagine you're working and then this guy come near you and takes a picture of you. Not many of us would be comfortable with that. Though it may be a public place, people tend to feel invaded in some sense. Next time, get a zoom lens and position far far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danntbt
    Tried 'shooting' two TPs by their BMW the other day and was told off...and almost have to have my id checked.....really, its in public place, at the NUS bus stop at AYE.....thought the cars streaking pass would make nice effects in the backgrd of the men in blues.....will sneak up next time rather than in the open...
    Did you snap while they were issuing a summon to some other motorist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark75
    Did you snap while they were issuing a summon to some other motorist?
    normally police officers do like to be photographed. I have been to many countries, and most of them don't like to be in the frame of the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowspeeder
    Imagine you're working and then this guy come near you and takes a picture of you. Not many of us would be comfortable with that. Though it may be a public place, people tend to feel invaded in some sense. Next time, get a zoom lens and position far far away.
    Yah, very true, in Singapore, we tend to be quite shy and sometimes take offense to people taking our photo.

    Guess we'll have to learn from those Buckingham guards to pose proudly!

    Btw, how are our Istana guards, do they shrug you off when you try to take their photos? Anyone has experience to share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark75
    Yah, very true, in Singapore, we tend to be quite shy and sometimes take offense to people taking our photo.

    Guess we'll have to learn from those Buckingham guards to pose proudly!

    Btw, how are our Istana guards, do they shrug you off when you try to take their photos? Anyone has experience to share?
    Under the shadow of terrorism, i doubt they let you shoot...
    There are special cases, perhaps.. when you dress and behave like MR BEAN!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesow
    Under the shadow of terrorism, i doubt they let you shoot...
    There are special cases, perhaps.. when you dress and behave like MR BEAN!!

    This is interesting. Last night, while I was taking some photos of Power Gas workers laying gas pipes along Balestier Road, I was stopped and questioned by their on-site manager.

    As a photographer, is such street photography illegal?

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    I think it is important to infuse in ourselves a sense of discretion. Not every do's or don'ts is defined by legality. It is essential to review the implications of our actions and exercise due consideration as well as tactfulness when we want to photograph other people on the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Ds
    Not true
    there you go again....

    1Ds madmacs

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    Zoom lenses might not get some of the detail and emotion that a close-up shot might get.But then again, there are no hard and fast rules in street photography.I love my 10x zoom on my S5000Z and its very useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LazerLordz
    Zoom lenses might not get some of the detail and emotion that a close-up shot might get.But then again, there are no hard and fast rules in street photography.I love my 10x zoom on my S5000Z and its very useful.
    That depends on what kind of zoom lens you're referring to. The upper range of quality lenses from nikon and canon can quite easily do the job. But it comes with a hefty price.

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    I was trying to get a silhoutte of them actually, with the streaks of headlights and siren on top of their BM, it was a real missed opportunity....a zoom would not have captured the feel and intensity of the moment....couldn't just point and shoot quickly as a long exposure was necc....anyway.....have been flamed many times shooting at events...for taking certain people's face....guess we are a concious lot.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesow
    hi, is this a legal or personal opinion?
    I am not a lawyer, so it is personal.

    I think shoot first. answer questions later.
    They cannot take your camera (it's robbery)

    If in doubt ask to speak to the top guy.

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    nope, not illegal. the on-site manager is acting like those security guards who make up their own laws as they go along.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffhiew
    This is interesting. Last night, while I was taking some photos of Power Gas workers laying gas pipes along Balestier Road, I was stopped and questioned by their on-site manager.

    As a photographer, is such street photography illegal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowspeeder
    That depends on what kind of zoom lens you're referring to. The upper range of quality lenses from nikon and canon can quite easily do the job. But it comes with a hefty price.
    Me not so pro.I'll need a tripod to stabliize myself, and the element of surprise is lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark75
    I'm not sure, but I think copyright would definately be infringed upon if the building's design is replicated. That is, if you walk along Guangzhou one day and find an exactly the same 'Chijmes' there! (Of course, it'll probably be named 'Chijmess'.)
    probably Chinajimes instead

    wonder if the original men who built the church built anything similar elsewhere. or maybe the management want to protect their IP in their anchor tenant etc?

    sometimes i'm really lost when people tell me no photography is allowed to protect against copying of ideas. but once anyone who walks in, can have a visual memory in the mind, dont tell me must sue the person to forget?

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    try this trick it always works for me....just dress like a tourist and have a friend follow you around.... speak with a funny japanese accent or a honk kong accent... trust me it works...

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    that's because the definition of infringement does not include the situation you described.

    Quote Originally Posted by sehsuan
    sometimes i'm really lost when people tell me no photography is allowed to protect against copying of ideas. but once anyone who walks in, can have a visual memory in the mind, dont tell me must sue the person to forget?

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