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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Without skill:

    Good lenses give you sharp lousy photos.

    Good cameras give you huge low noise lousy photos.
    you must be the wise man i met
    宁愿遇见丢失幼崽的母熊,也不愿碰上做蠢事的愚人

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma

    you must be the wise man i met
    I shoot lousy photos too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123

    I shoot lousy photos too.
    All shots are lousy in comparison to the mighty Ortegandalf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Yes, but to tell him to get an L lens when, based on his skill level, it would be a total waste of money, is just folly.
    And what is his present skill level?
    A lens that can provide an additional 2-stops of lights may prevent a blur image even in automatic mode.

    If never answer the TS question, might as well don't post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    I shoot lousy photos too.
    now you're being a wiseguy ...
    宁愿遇见丢失幼崽的母熊,也不愿碰上做蠢事的愚人

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    Quote Originally Posted by kklee

    And what is his present skill level?
    A lens that can provide an additional 2-stops of lights may prevent a blur image even in automatic mode.

    If never answer the TS question, might as well don't post.
    Because ts asked the same question in April, and provided no info as to why he thinks he needs to upgrade his body or lens. Still the same question, still the lack of reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kklee

    And what is his present skill level?
    A lens that can provide an additional 2-stops of lights may prevent a blur image even in automatic mode.

    If never answer the TS question, might as well don't post.
    Because ts asked the same question in April, and provided no info as to why he thinks he needs to upgrade his body or lens. Still the same question, still the lack of reason.

    Oh, and I *did* answer his question. I told him to get neither until his skill level improves. Once the skill level improves, he wont even need to ask this question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kklee

    And what is his present skill level?
    A lens that can provide an additional 2-stops of lights may prevent a blur image even in automatic mode.

    If never answer the TS question, might as well don't post.
    And if he does get a lens with a 2-stop wider aperture but then does not know how to manage depth of field then comes back here asking why all the pictures he shot with his lens are all blurred... will you then be the one to handhold him and spoonfeed him?
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  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    And if he does get a lens with a 2-stop wider aperture but then does not know how to manage depth of field then comes back here asking why all the pictures he shot with his lens are all blurred... will you then be the one to handhold him and spoonfeed him?
    That will be good practicals vs trying to understand the theories alone.
    Newbies will most likely ask newbies type of question hoping for an answer.
    I can't imagine primary school kids turning to Google for help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kklee

    That will be good practicals vs trying to understand the theories alone.
    Newbies will most likely ask newbies type of question hoping for an answer.
    I can't imagine primary school kids turning to Google for help.
    Oh, you would be amazed at how good primary school kids are at using Google.

    But for the same newbies to ask the same question over and over again shows a lack of absorption. Which might be a sign that maybe photography is not for him.
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    it would be better for those who'd love to help the newbies to help themselves first. READ all the previous post so that you'll understand how you can help. don't just come in, see the first post, then reply. you're not helping the TS in any way.

    also, KK Lee. as yourself. if TS is a newbie asking such a question, how would he understand your analogy of 28mm and 24mm or where to stand, how to shoot. by just telling him "get an L Lens", how are you helping him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    it would be better for those who'd love to help the newbies to help themselves first. READ all the previous post so that you'll understand how you can help. don't just come in, see the first post, then reply. you're not helping the TS in any way.

    also, KK Lee. as yourself. if TS is a newbie asking such a question, how would he understand your analogy of 28mm and 24mm or where to stand, how to shoot. by just telling him "get an L Lens", how are you helping him?
    get an L lens and use P for professional mode.

    pictures can be fit for NG after tht.

    TS like to post than MIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleveninth

    get an L lens and use P for professional mode.

    pictures can be fit for NG after tht.

    TS like to post than MIA
    Wait another 7 months then he'll ask again if he should upgrade body or buy an L lens for cosplay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Wait another 7 months then he'll ask again if he should upgrade body or buy an L lens for cosplay
    or perhaps, which flash should he get to shoot planes taking off or flying at changi at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309

    or perhaps, which flash should he get to shoot planes taking off or flying at changi at night.
    after tht shoot, he will get to see many flashing guys in prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhysCheng

    after tht shoot, he will get to see many flashing guys in prison
    Yes, many guys flash each other in the showers. It's called "artistic nude shoot"
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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    or perhaps, which flash should he get to shoot planes taking off or flying at changi at night.
    he need flash for nightscapes also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleveninth View Post
    he need flash for nightscapes also.
    GN 10e6 to light up the whole MBS from Gardens By the Bay ?
    宁愿遇见丢失幼崽的母熊,也不愿碰上做蠢事的愚人

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma

    GN 10e6 to light up the whole MBS from Gardens By the Bay ?
    Then comes the thread asking which rechargeable batteries to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Then comes the thread asking which rechargeable batteries to buy.
    then i'll give him the best advise..

    Give up photography.

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