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    Default Re: wow... good stuff!

    Originally posted by kenneth
    very good mtv!
    my wife cried.. and i nearly did... very touching...
    i'm going to forward this to all my girlfriends...!! hahaaa.....
    I too shown it to some of my colleagues...
    Their comment: very touching! and ask me where I got it from...

    I say this photograpy forum loh!!!

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    Very touching indeed. That's what I call a REAL SACRIFICE!

    Anyway, for those who can't seem to view the video, I have made these observations. You will need a Win Media Player version 7 at least. I tried playing it on the versions 5 and 6 but both can't. Only the version 7 can play it.

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    Where did the first person get the MTV? Any more? Which site?

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    Hi,

    Not bad. That guy's E10 can do B&W prints. And his Ilford Multigrade IV developer can develop colour prints as well.

    Very touching story. It must have been very painful to have the Ilford developer splashed onto your eyes. Moral of the story: Do not leave chemicals on the edge of the shelf, and cap them tight.

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    Not bad. That guy's E10 can do B&W prints. And his Ilford Multigrade IV developer can develop colour prints as well.

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    Cut and paste from one kiss website.


    KISS - Because I'm a Girl (MTV version)

    *jini*
    doh deh cheh al soo gah ob soh namja deul eh ma eum
    won hal dohn on jeh go dah joo nee Eee jeh Ddoh nahn deh

    *mini*
    Ee ron jok cho eum Eee rah go noh neun teuk byul ha dah neun
    keu mahl eul mee doh soh neh ghen hang bokee yuh soh

    [chorus]
    *jini*
    mahl eul ha jee geu reh ssoh neh gah shi roh joht dah goh
    noon chi gah ob neun nahn neul bo chae ghee mahn haessoh
    noh reul yolk ha myun soh doh mahnee keu ree Ool goh yah
    sarangee chun boo een nah neun yuhja Ee nee kah

    *jini*
    moh deun gol ship geh dah joo myun kum bahng shil joong neh neun geh
    namja rah deu ross soh teul rin mahl kat jin ahn nah

    *umji*
    dah shi neun sok ji ahn euh rhee mah eun mok oh boh ji mahn
    Ddoh dah shi sarangae moo noh ji neun geh yuhja yah

    [CHORUS]
    *jini*
    mahl eul ha jee geu reh ssoh neh gah shi roh joht dah goh
    noon chi gah ob neun nahn neul bo chae ghee mahn haessoh
    noh reul yolk ha myun soh doh mahnee keu ree Ool goh yah
    sarangee chun boo een nah neun yuhja Ee nee kah

    *jini*
    moh deun gol ship geh dah joo myun kum bahng shil joong neh neun geh
    namja rah deu ross soh teul rin mahl kat jin ahn nah

    *umji*
    dah shi neun sok ji ahn euh rhee mah eun mok oh boh ji mahn
    Ddoh dah shi sarangae moo noh ji neun geh yuhja yah

    [CHORUS]
    *jini*
    mahl eul ha jee geu reh ssoh neh gah shi roh joht dah goh
    noon chi gah ob neun nahn neul bo chae ghee mahn haessoh
    noh reul yolk ha myun soh doh mahnee keu ree Ool goh yah

    *mini*
    sarang eul we hae soh rah myun moh deun dah hal soo eat neun
    yuhja ae chak han bon noong eul lee yong ha jee neun mahl ah joh~

    *jini*
    han yuhja roh tae yoh nah sarang bahd go sah neun keh
    ee rok keh him deul go oh ryoh Oohl jool mohl lass soh

    *jini*
    noh reul yolk ha myun soh doh mahnee keu ree Ool goh yah
    sarangee chun boo een nah neun yuhja Ee nee kah

    [narration]
    *umji*
    Oh neul Ooh reen hae yuh ju suh
    boo dee hang bok ha rah go
    noh boh dah joh eun sah ram mahn nah gil bah rahn dah go
    noh doh dah reun namja rahng ddok kat tae
    nahl sarang han dah go mahl han dden on jeh go
    sol jik hee na -- nee gah jahl den eun goh shi roh
    na bo dah yeh boon yuhja mahn na hang bok ha geh jahl sahl myun oh tok hae
    keu roh dah nahl jung mahl Eee joh boh rhee myun oh tok hae
    nahn Ee rok keh him deun deh -- him deul roh jook ket neun deh
    ah jik doh nohl noh moo sarang ha neun deh

    *mini*
    sarang eul we hae soh rah myun moh deun dah hal soo eat neun
    yuhja ae chak han bon noong eul lee yong ha jee neun mahl ah joh~

    *jini*
    han yuhja roh tae yoh nah sarang bahd go sah neun keh
    ee rok keh him deul go oh ryoh Oohl jool mohl lass soh

    *jini*
    noh reul yolk ha myun soh doh mahnee keu ree Ool goh yah
    sarangee chun boo een nah neun yuhja Ee nee kah

    *jini*
    noh reul yolk ha myun soh doh mahnee keu ree Ool goh yah
    sarangee chun boo een nah neun yuhja Ee nee kah


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    KISS - Because I'm a Girl (MTV Translation)

    *jini*
    i just can't understand the hearts of men
    they tell you they want you and then they leave you

    *mini*
    this is the first time, you're special
    i believed those words and i was so happy

    [chorus]
    *jini*
    you should have told me you didn't like me any more
    but i couldn't see that and you just rushed me
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    *jini*
    i heard that if you give up things too easily
    to a man, he will get bored with you
    i don't think this is wrong

    *umji*
    a girl says that she will never be fooled again
    but she will fall in love again

    [chorus]
    *jini*
    you should have told me you didn't like me any more
    but i couldn't see that and you just rushed me
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    *jini*
    i heard that if you give up things too easily
    to a man, he will get bored with you
    i don't think this is wrong

    *umji*
    a girl says that she will never be fooled again
    but she will fall in love again

    [chorus]
    *jini*
    you should have told me you didn't like me any more
    but i couldn't see that and you just rushed me
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    *mini*
    don't take advantage of a girl's willingness to do anything for love
    and her caring instinct

    *jini*
    i didn't know that to be born as a girl and to be loved was so hard

    *jini* although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    [narration] *umji*
    we parted today
    you said you wanted me to be happy and find a better person than you
    you're just like every other man
    didn't you tell me you loved me?
    when im hurting so much, so much i want to die
    when i still love you so much...

    *mini* don't take advantage of a girl's willingness to do anything for love
    and her caring instinct

    *jini* i didn't know that to be born as a girl and to be loved was so hard

    *jini* although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    *jini* although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    Male Narration:
    there is a girl i love
    although i can't be with her right now
    but i will always love her

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    wha this line abit jialat

    *jini* although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    WHY THE HECK DO YOU STILL CURSE?!!?!
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    Originally posted by kamwai
    Cut and paste from one kiss website.


    KISS - Because I'm a Girl (MTV version)

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    haiz...... this kind of idea. It is just teaching and re-enforcing the misguided idea that women are creatures of emotion and they can be irresponsible for their actions

    when will they learn.................
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    Originally posted by kamwai
    Cut and paste from one kiss website.


    Male Narration:
    there is a girl i love
    although i can't be with her right now
    but i will always love her
    Thanks for putting the translation here

    the guy too proud is it?

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    Observation: No, the camera guy and the assitant ain't gay. The photo assistant likes the girl (note the way the PA looked at her at the beginning when she is apolagising after she got in the way)

    Well, I guess the lyrics is fitting for the end of the story. The girl will "curse him" for the sacrifice he made, her wish is not for him to lose his vision. And also for giving her up and handing her over to the photo assistant. She still loves him

    He still loves her, but he feels that he is responsible and is angry with himself (scene where he sit in the darkroom and his espression in the scenes after that) Due to his love and guilt he sacrificed his vision. Perhaps due to his guilt or handicap, he cannot be with her (Korean Man ego is bigger than japanese ah~) and hand her over to his assistant who he knows like her as well so that someone would take care of her.

    My personal intepretation.

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    in one of the scene, it was raining..the gal was trapped in the rain, then the guy come and bring two umberlla, one for himself, one for her...

    then the gal walk in the rain without the umberlla...



    you can find more information about KISS at http://kiss.echoswirl.com
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    MP3 for this song

    Because I'm a Girl
    Because I'm a Girl (instrumental)
    Because I'm a Girl (With narration)
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    kamwai: do you know why the scene was in side?

    if Flare's interpretation was correct, than the rain scene would take meaning. cos i didnt get it at first.

    hmmm reminds me of my video class
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    Originally posted by quackaroo
    kamwai: do you know why the scene was in side?

    if Flare's interpretation was correct, than the rain scene would take meaning. cos i didnt get it at first.

    hmmm reminds me of my video class
    why ar?

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    some pple translate the lyrics differenetly...

    i just cant understand the hearts of men
    they tell you they want you and then they leave you
    this is the first time, you're special
    i believed those words and i was so happy
    you should have told me you didn't like me any more
    but i couldn't see that and you just rushed me
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    since i am a girl, to whom love is everything
    i heard that if you give up things too easily
    to a man, he will get bored with you
    i don't think this is wrong
    a girl says that she will never be fooled again
    but she will fall in love again
    you should have told me you didn't like me any more
    but i couldn't see that and you just rushed me
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    since i am a girl, to whom love is everything
    [narration]
    Hey babe
    the pain
    it's not enough to describe how i feel
    we were so happy together
    but i know now
    i've been blind
    you told me that youd never let me down
    whenever i needed you you'd always be here
    i can forgive but i cant forget
    even though you hurt me
    i still love you
    i still love you
    don't take advantage of a girl's willingness to do anything for love
    and her caring instinct
    i didn't know that to be born as a girl and to be loved was so hard
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    since i am a girl, to whom love is everything
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    since i am a girl, to whom love is everything

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    This one a bit different....

    KISS - Because I'm a Girl (Translated)

    *jini* i just cant understand the hearts of men
    they tell you they want you and then they leave you

    *mini* this is the first time, you're special
    i believed those words and i was so happy

    [chorus] *jini*
    you should have told me you didn't like me any more
    but i couldn't see that and you just rushed me
    although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    *jini* i heard that if you give up things too easily
    to a man, he will get bored with you
    i don't think this is wrong

    *umji* a girl says that she will never be fooled again
    but she will fall in love again

    [chorus]

    [narration] *umji*
    we parted today
    you said you wanted me to be happy and find a better person than you
    you're just like every other man
    didn't you tell me you loved me?
    actually, i don't want you to be happy
    what if you find a girl who's prettier than me and live happily with her
    what it makes you forget me
    when im hurting so much, so much i want to die
    when i still love you so much...

    *mini* don't take advantage of a girl's willingness to do anything for love
    and her caring instinct

    *jini* i didn't know that to be born as a girl and to be loved was so hard

    *jini* although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    *jini* although i will curse you i'll still miss you
    because i am a girl, to whom love is everything

    "i can forgive, but i can't forget... even though you hurt me, i still love you... i still love you."

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    Chinese version : (using Chinese GB code)

    MTV旁白意思:
    女:

    今天,我們分手了,希望我能夠幸福, 能找到比你更好的人。
    你也像其他的男人一樣, 忘了說過的一切。說實話, 我不希望你能夠幸福,
    我擔心你能找到比我更漂亮的女孩子,幸福的過日子,
    那你就會真的把我忘記的,我是那么的難過, 心如刀絞,
    我想我愛你愛的太深了,不要利用可以為了不惜一切的女 人的善良的本性,
    生為一個女人,被人愛是如此的難。雖然我在罵你, 但我心里是那么的想你,
    因為,把愛視為全部的我——是女人。

    男:申賢俊

    有一個我深愛著的女人,雖然我不能和她在一起,
    不過,我仍然深愛著她。

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    Originally posted by kamwai


    why ar?
    because the photographer knew that his assitant likes the girl. so he wants to back away, but then he realises that it wasnt doing anygood. so he still went on to shelter her

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    Well, since we're dissecting the video, there are a couple of recurring themes:

    1. The girl is very clumsy. She bumbles into the photo shoot, she gets soap in his eyes, she spills her drink on the photos, she spills Ilford developer in her eyes.

    2. The guy's eyes are doomed. She gets soap into his eyes, hurting them. He sprays champagne into his eyes. He rubs his eyes when she first comes to see him in the studio. Then of course he has to donate his corneas.

    His eyes are the greatest sacrifice, because without them he cannot indulge in his greatest passions - photography and motorbike racing.

    By the way, after she recovers, she looks into the mirror (at the hair salon) and probably notices for the first time that her corneas are a different colour (just before she hallucinates that she sees him, when actually it is the assistant delivering the magazine cover).

    I don't really "get" the raining part, though. I thought it's because she had romantic notions that they should be sharing the umbrella, but he was being more practical. Typical "Men from Mars, Women from Venus stuff".
    Last edited by StreetShooter; 9th February 2002 at 09:12 AM.

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    Fantastic! But is there an AVI version please? Anyone? wanna burn it as VCD.

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    You can actually see the colour of your corneas?

    Originally posted by StreetShooter

    By the way, after she recovers, she looks into the mirror (at the hair salon) and probably notices for the first time that her corneas are a different colour....

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