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    been thinking.... why do we still need the "slr" bit.

    thought the reflex portion is meant mainly for film?

    with advanced sensor as that used in D800, why the hell do we still need the lens reflex system. see directly from sensor lah, since it is said that sensor is so good, world best etc etc. should be able to provide good VF view right?

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    Default Re: why still dslr

    They have something for you...... its called the mirrorless system..... try it.

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    i know mirrorless is viewing thru sensor but on back LCD.
    i talking about viewing thru sensor from VIEWFINDER. why is nikon still having reflex mirror in camera like D800, D4 etc. what is the advantage? for the sake of the name DSLR??? i supposed with that kind of sensor quality, electronic VF should be able to match optical??

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    Default Re: why still dslr

    You want electronic VF? Try the OM-D E-M5, A99, XE-1, just to name a few.

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    and no, I have not met an EVF which can match OVF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    and no, I have not met an EVF which can match OVF.
    why not? technology not there yet? are we paying much more just for the OVF? How close is existing EVF to OVF? what are the main advantage of OVF over EVF as of now?

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    why not? technology not there yet? are we paying much more just for the OVF? How close is existing EVF to OVF? what are the main advantage of OVF over EVF as of now?
    why not you google the differences between EVF and OVF? I'm sure there are many articles around.

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    what trigger me to post this is whether an EVF can solve the God damn oil spots issue.
    I believe there is already quite impressive evf around already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTBFM2 View Post
    why not? technology not there yet? are we paying much more just for the OVF? How close is existing EVF to OVF? what are the main advantage of OVF over EVF as of now?
    I believe the A99 uses the highest resolution EVF now. Go try it and see if you think it can match OVF. Nothing beats seeing it for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTBFM2 View Post
    what trigger me to post this is whether an EVF can solve the God damn oil spots issue.
    I believe there is already quite impressive evf around already.
    OVF does not necessarily means oil spots. It just happened on one model recently. I've owned 9 DSLRs in the past 10 years, none had that issue.

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    Default Re: why still dslr

    I love my D-SLR's.....
    See my WTS items.. :) Any sales is by meet up face to face, payment is cash only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTBFM2 View Post
    what trigger me to post this is whether an EVF can solve the God damn oil spots issue.
    I believe there is already quite impressive evf around already.
    Still on the oil spots issue? I've been seeing you complaining here all day long. Does it solve the problem?

    In any case, I don't see how EVF prevents oil and dust or whatever. As long as it's interchangeable lens system and you need to change lens, dust and dirt will enter sooner or later.

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    not sure how bad the oil spot issue on D800 is.. but on my D7000 after the service by NSC, its pretty ok now.. so not sure whats the fuss is about.. i prefer OVF though.. had try out the EVF in shops.. don really like them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    OVF does not necessarily means oil spots. It just happened on one model recently. I've owned 9 DSLRs in the past 10 years, none had that issue.
    OVF needs the reflex of the mirror, hence moving parts and hence IMO the needs for lubrication? oil????

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTBFM2 View Post
    OVF needs the reflex of the mirror, hence moving parts and hence IMO the needs for lubrication? oil????
    go get yourself a mirrorless and quit whinning.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    go get yourself a mirrorless and quit whinning.....
    I am using one anyway and enjoying the wysiwyg previewing in evf before picture taken. Never possible in ovf.

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    Personally I prefer OVF over EVF because:
    - EVF gives a noticable lag.
    - Sometimes EVF gives not-so-natural brightness /colors.. especially on difficult lighting situations.
    - From what I know, DSLRs with EVF suck more battery juice compared with their OVF counterparts.

    Again, this is my opinion. Your miles may vary.
    Last edited by SilentSeth; 8th October 2012 at 12:27 AM.

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    Not only the VF, the focusing is not really thatfast compared to a DSLR.

    Maybe will take a while to close the gap.

    But I really love the compactness and weight of the mirrorless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy1 View Post
    Not only the VF, the focusing is not really thatfast compared to a DSLR.

    Maybe will take a while to close the gap.

    But I really love the compactness and weight of the mirrorless.
    Hmm? Not really.. some systems with EVF have great AF. Example: Sony A77.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentSeth View Post
    Personally I prefer OVF over EVF because:
    - EVF gives a noticable lag.
    - Sometimes EVF gives not-so-natural brightness /colors.. especially on difficult lighting situations.
    - From what I know, DSLRs with EVF suck more battery juice compared with their OVF counterparts.

    Again, this is my opinion. Your miles may vary.
    agree with you Sir on the first point.
    but as mentioned one potential advantage is the wysiwyg preview which give quite accurate representation of the final captured image. not to mention less moving parts and lighter weight advantage over ovf.

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