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    Default Re: amateur dinner wedding shoot rates.

    Of course I have others shots that show faces.. But I'm not going to reveal my friend photo anywhere on the net..

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    Default Re: amateur dinner wedding shoot rates.

    Shooting actual day photo is very different from shooting posed shots.

    For example, you can ask the person to pose again.

    How many times are you going to ask people to redo tea ceremony without looking stupid?

    As I mentioned earlier, know what you want out of it, know what your friend wants out of it. How much you charge then depends on your own assessment, one willing taker one willing seller, so long as you are sure you are clear on each other's part what you will be getting, then everything will be fine. Cheers.

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    Judging from your posts and mindset, i really find that you are not ready to handle a wedding shoot. No offence.

    So much can happen and go wrong during a wedding shot, u may not think so cos u do not have the experience to know what could go wrong, or what u have missed out. Equipment backup, capture the important moment, candid moment, group photo, wedding details etc etc .. there's just so much different style u need to know beside just knowing how to take portrait shoot.

    Please do urself a favour, dun get into a spot whereby ur friend complain about the work you produce. Unless they are those who doesnt care abt the wedding photo, who just need someone to snap away (i seriously do not know of any bride that think this way).

    Do let ur friend know ur strenght and weakness (experiences), lets work out the expectation so no one will blame anyone after the shoot.

    Lastly, pls do not talk abt ur payout .. its really out of topic ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenslust

    Creativity is not built with experience, can see TS has no qualms on shooting and is confident, however, just lacking the heart to know how much to charge.

    We all started out somewhere, didn't we ?
    He said he is doing it for the first time ... For god sake, dun play play on someone important day ... If u want to start out, start off as a 2nd photographer first, with a mentor to guide u through. Its a lot stressless.

    I have seen ppl who just become clueless on what to do on their first attemp .. it take experience to be able to adapt into a new surrounding immediately, and source out the creative shot at ease, handling of camera technical aspect is secondary.

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    Pls ask yourself this;

    If it's your own wedding, will you engage a photographer of your caliber to cover the event? If your answer is a firm yes, you can proceed with your question of how much to charge. But if you hesitate even one bit, pls think twice, thrice, 4x, 5x.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducky88 View Post
    She is just an acquitance. .
    no need to talk anymore .... please treat this as a professional paying assignment and nothing else

    a regular tang-jiak photog will charge about $1500-2000 with X number of 4Rs into an album and a CD of unprocessed sized-down jpegs
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    Quote Originally Posted by asthio88 View Post
    Pls ask yourself this;

    If it's your own wedding, will you engage a photographer of your caliber to cover the event? If your answer is a firm yes, you can proceed with your question of how much to charge. But if you hesitate even one bit, pls think twice, thrice, 4x, 5x.....
    Please don't even think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asthio88 View Post
    Pls ask yourself this;

    If it's your own wedding, will you engage a photographer of your caliber to cover the event? If your answer is a firm yes, you can proceed with your question of how much to charge. But if you hesitate even one bit, pls think twice, thrice, 4x, 5x.....
    why not? every photographers think they are the best photographer among all.

    you can see almost all the questions they asked about shooting weddings, it is on what camera and lenses should they use, nothing about themself.
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    agree with Mod Eddy,

    to give wedding couples all the high res images, edited or not, that itself is already cost $1000 and above.
    than add it your services into it, service at $50 per hour is very low, plus post production $30 per hour, and also not forgetting to add in camera, lens and other equipment usage and depreciation, administration, materials, transports, pension and insurance.

    too complicated? so if you think you are just an amateurs and want to do for free, by all means.

    anyway, it seems your friend does not set this wedding photography at high priority at all, by seeing she just like look around some one can take photos, not even wedding photos, so I guess her expecting is not high, unlikely she will pay more than $200 to $300 for that, so the rest is up to you liao.
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    alamak.

    why didn't anyone think of... another uniquer solution?
    TS should:
    1) Secure a quote for a reasonably experienced wedding photographer

    2) Subcontract Main Shooter out to experienced pro, including producing the deliverables, etc. Shoot alongside as 2nd shooter .

    Barring resistance to pricing, this could be viable, educational and profitable

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma
    alamak.

    why didn't anyone think of... another uniquer solution?
    TS should:
    1) Secure a quote for a reasonably experienced wedding photographer

    2) Subcontract Main Shooter out to experienced pro. Shoot alongside as 2nd shooter .

    Barring resistance to pricing, this could be viable, educational and profitable

    cheers
    No decent wedding photographer will take on a job with a condition to take on an inexperienced and potentially inadequate 2nd photographer. Even more so if that 2nd shooter is the commissioner of the job. To do so is much akin to suicide.

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    New idea!

    TS should pay the bride. That way it will be safe since the bride is getting paid. Just treat it like a saturday organized shoot at emerald hill. Good deal you know, those fake xiao mei mei bride in cheap wedding gown they already collect $50 per shooter. This one real bride plus comes with groom and lots of guest.

    Sorry for the sarcasm, this time its real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    No decent wedding photographer will take on a job with a condition to take on an inexperienced and potentially inadequate 2nd photographer. Even more so if that 2nd shooter is the commissioner of the job. To do so is much akin to suicide.
    Exactly.

    We have to see it from the working photographer point of view. Client management is a complex affair that amateurs will not understand. Amateurs always see things from their own angle which is to shoot and enjoy their hobby, but they lack the sense about what it means to provide a professional level of service to people, while further the photographer's own craft and profiting along the way. Its just like a 4 year old boy proudly declaring when he grow up he wanna be the president because he doesn't know the world yet. Yeah good to have dreams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    agree with Mod Eddy,

    to give wedding couples all the high res images, edited or not, that itself is already cost $1000 and above.
    than add it your services into it, service at $50 per hour is very low, plus post production $30 per hour, and also not forgetting to add in camera, lens and other equipment usage and depreciation, administration, materials, transports, pension and insurance.

    too complicated? so if you think you are just an amateurs and want to do for free, by all means.

    anyway, it seems your friend does not set this wedding photography at high priority at all, by seeing she just like look around some one can take photos, not even wedding photos, so I guess her expecting is not high, unlikely she will pay more than $200 to $300 for that, so the rest is up to you liao.
    TS just charge $2000 even if you are inexperienced

    This is not a joke or being sacarstic

    Why ?

    It puts you under FREAKING pressure to deliver ... which I always feel is the best way to grow up and get up to speed.... chin chye chin chye no pressure to deliver type of shooting is the worst teacher of all and sets you a bad habit of eventually being a chin chye half past six photographer/businessman

    THEN after the event, after delivering all the promised images .... AND after getting paid ..... if you are paid $2000 you will say "EVERY BLARDY DOLLAR was HARD EARNED!!! " ..... if you are paid $300-500 angpow you will say "Duhhh??? THAT was stupid of me..."

    p/s at most give a 10% discount
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    why not? every photographers think they are the best photographer among all.

    you can see almost all the questions they asked about shooting weddings, it is on what camera and lenses should they use, nothing about themself.

    That's exactly the problem and that's what TS should consider first before worrying of what to use or how much to charge. Yes, everyone has to start somewhere but to use someone's wedding which happens (hopefully) once in a life time is simply

    No amount of pressure will yield any better results if one is simply not there.

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    It takes 2 hand to clap, the bride pay peanuts, she get monkey (likely) ..

    Its good that amature like to venture into wedding photography, so that end of the day, it proves that the pro is still required to deliver, but often ,the victim has no chance to chose her photographer again ,unless ... (2nd time wedding .. lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanof4 View Post
    ..... For god sake, dun play play on someone important day ........
    For God's sake, the bride also play play on HER OWN most important day too by engaging someone who is new to this ... so its fair game
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119

    For God's sake, the bride also play play on HER OWN most important day too by engaging someone who is new to this ... so its fair game
    Just shoot with point and shoot! :-)
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    Default Re: amateur dinner wedding shoot rates.

    most wedding couples need to be inform (educated) the important of wedding day photography, but if the photographers themself are not really understand these, who is there to educate them? and what can we expect?


    wedding couples don't care, photographers don't care too, both will get what they want, isn't it everybody happy??

    than why are we so kpo?? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    wedding couples don't care, photographers don't care too, both will get what they want, isn't it everybody happy??

    than why are we so kpo?? lol
    usually it's "the photographer got what he wanted ($$)" and "the couple didn't get what they wanted (crappy photos)"


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