There are many examples out there, within photography you also have half-past-six people doing wedding and event photography when they don't really have a clue... When it comes to workshops there are loads out there which teach you all sorts of skills when the trainers won't be the best.. That's life. Personally, if you think you have nothing to gain, then it is a simple answer for you - don't join. Otherwise, if no one really finds value in it, sooner or later the workshop organizer/trainers will not get enough students and will end up doing other things.
I don't think CS should start saying to workshop organizers that they CMI and therefore cannot advertise classes here -
(1) Who's to judge?
(2) Who's to ensure that the judgement is fair and doesn't stem from some personal vendetta?
(3) Even if what is taught is rudimentary, some people don't want to learn themselves, so such workshop will exist for them?
Eddie Adams mati long long time ago. But its one of the leading photojournalism workshops around. Eddie was one of the founders of magnum. If this not good enough for you... I dhnno what is.
So what aspects of product photography you want to learn?
But sorry brother.... your point might hold validity IF you have plonked down the $$$ and actually ATTENDED the workshop and came away feeling like you wasted your time and money
You are essentially blasting a workshop that you have not even attended based on a few (advertising ) images the workshop organizer put up which were obviously not up to your expectations ...
AT LEAST THANK the workshop organizer that they're truthful in their advertising by putting up those images rather than putting up other images that could well mislead what is to be expected
These images obviously saved you some money here .... so why the harsh words ?
For $55 (If you are referring to THAT workshop) I guess you are expecting to learn enough to next shoot for Tiffany's or Hour Glass ?
Please talk with action not with words
No need to conduct workshop ..... just lead a gathering or outing for product photography (Goodness knows we have NOT had one of these for the longest time already) .....
Follow the lead taken by some big-hearted CS'ers who have put in their time and effort leading free weekend walks and outings for Beginners, Strobists, Food, Landscapes, Macro, Street .... and some even say JB too (literally)
Last edited by ed9119; 1st October 2012 at 09:12 PM.
the only thing i follow in cs is bbb. don need the gear also buy.
You like the Martel or the picture? HahaOriginally Posted by phoakm
Just to clear the air here... I believe the TS is pointing to the Product Photography with Flash Workshop started by studiospace @$55.
I'm the owner of studiospace and also the trainer conducting this workshop. All these photos (as below) are taken by me using multiple flashes/speedlights with relevant modifiers mounted only.
In fact, I took these photos and used them as part of the course ware for the practical. As such over the past lessons, I do have over 200 students that can vouched for me on the use of flashes as they hold similar photos also.
I'm sorry if the photos are not done to your 'taste' as they are meant specially for the above workshop. The reasons why I choose flash over strobes is to emphasis the point that commercial product photography can be done by anyone, leveraging the use of the small flashes that most of us own. Of cos, I could have re-mod the workshop using strobes where I can command higher course fees and also would be much more easier for me to control the lightings. I do own professional Broncolor strobes in my studio for commercial work. At this juncture, I see no point in displaying my commercial portfolio in the public forum unless you want to engage my services which I welcome you to discuss directly with me at studiospace.
Ultimately, it is still anybody's choice to join my workshops and I have not 'forced' anybody to!
Last edited by sykestang; 1st October 2012 at 06:21 PM.
Anyway, I welcome like minded photographers and drinkers to join me at my studio sometime... we could talk more bbb and of cos I still looking for drinkers for me to open my Moets
2 days and no response from TS
as expected .... CKLPS .....
Last edited by ed9119; 3rd October 2012 at 10:42 AM.