My first IR Shots

jbma · 12th February 2005

This is my first try at IR. I tried 2 different processes. Comments appreciated.

Pablo · 12th February 2005

Hi jmba,

You use the Canon 10D ? (in your profile).
The first one probably needed longer exposure time.
The 20D definately needs long exposures I find.

#2 is definately getting there.
I am not good at PS but I would guess teerex would like a play with your photo.

You set the CWB to a green tree or grass ?

Cheers

sumball · 12th February 2005

Wah, jbma. You no long shooting the sunbird but shooting IR liao ah?

Think yo uneed to learn more from the experts here. haha

Try more, shoot more.

teerex · 12th February 2005

Nice to know that expert photographers like jbma and sumball are reading the IR forum and are beginning to join in shooting IR. We definitely can learn a lot from these guys, hope that more expert photogs will come in and share their expertise with us.

jbma, my opinions of your 2 shots.

#1 seem ok, may require a little longer exposure like pablo mentioned. Don't know if that is the cause of the dark sky, but can try longer exposure to find out if that is the cause.

I took the liberty to ps that pic to get white foliage and I think white foliage looks better. But then, unless you like the purplish tinge in the foliage then that's fine. You may wish to have a look for comparison -

#2 seem like it over exposed in the center of the shot or is it what they call hot spot. I have also done some ps to that pix to bring down the brightness in the center and given it white foliage.

But then I guess you are better than many of us at ps. Those are just my opinions.

Keep Shooting and show.

Pablo - you guessed right

jbma · 12th February 2005

Originally Posted by Pablo

Hi jmba,

You use the Canon 10D ? (in your profile).
The first one probably needed longer exposure time.
The 20D definately needs long exposures I find.

#2 is definately getting there.
I am not good at PS but I would guess teerex would like a play with your photo.

You set the CWB to a green tree or grass ?

Cheers

Thanks for your input Pablo. Unfortunately I did not do a CWB on a patch of grass. Will try that for sure.

jbma · 12th February 2005

Originally Posted by teerex

Nice to know that expert photographers like jbma and sumball are reading the IR forum and are beginning to join in shooting IR. We definitely can learn a lot from these guys, hope that more expert photogs will come in and share their expertise with us.

jbma, my opinions of your 2 shots.

#1 seem ok, may require a little longer exposure like pablo mentioned. Don't know if that is the cause of the dark sky, but can try longer exposure to find out if that is the cause.

I took the liberty to ps that pic to get white foliage and I think white foliage looks better. But then, unless you like the purplish tinge in the foliage then that's fine. You may wish to have a look for comparison -

#2 seem like it over exposed in the center of the shot or is it what they call hot spot. I have also done some ps to that pix to bring down the brightness in the center and given it white foliage.

But then I guess you are better than many of us at ps. Those are just my opinions.

Keep Shooting and show.

Pablo - you guessed right

Thanks Teerex for your help. I am no expert photographer and I am certainly a newbie in IR but find the unpredictable result in IR fascinating. Wil try again and post here so that the experts in IR can advise and guide me along. Once again thanks for all the feedback guys.

teerex · 12th February 2005

Originally Posted by jbma

Thanks Teerex for your help. I am no expert photographer and I am certainly a newbie in IR but find the unpredicyable result in IR fascinating. Wil try again and post here so that the experts in IR can advise and guide me along. Once again thanks for all the feedback guys.

jbma, you're too modest. Your bird shots have fascinated me for a long time. Perhaps one of these days, you could try some bird IR shots and see what results are like.

sumball · 12th February 2005

Originally Posted by teerex

Nice to know that expert photographers like jbma and sumball are reading the IR forum and are beginning to join in shooting IR. We definitely can learn a lot from these guys, hope that more expert photogs will come in and share their expertise with us.

Wow!

Dun sabo me lar , I am no expert photographer but IR is good. Any idea how much is a 72mm Hoya R72 filter cost? Wanna try on my 300D with my Tamron 24-135mm lens. Any idea of this combo? Can take IR?

Adiemus · 12th February 2005

Originally Posted by sumball

Wow! Dun sabo me lar , I am no expert photographer but IR is good. Any idea how much is a 72mm Hoya R72 filter cost? Wanna try on my 300D with my Tamron 24-135mm lens. Any idea of this combo? Can take IR?

I think the R72 on 72mm thread will cost you a bomb!!! My guess is > $170. Correct me if I'm wrong. But hey, please don't let that stop you from shooting IR. Use a lens with a smaller thread diameter and get a lower cost R72.

Join us on the outings.

Adiemus · 12th February 2005

Hey jbma!

Great to have another IR photgrapher in our midst! Hope to see more posts from you soon. All that I can comment on the pictures have already been covered.

Keep them coming....

teerex · 12th February 2005

Originally Posted by sumball

Wow! Dun sabo me lar , I am no expert photographer but IR is good. Any idea how much is a 72mm Hoya R72 filter cost? Wanna try on my 300D with my Tamron 24-135mm lens. Any idea of this combo? Can take IR?

Another modest guy, but anyway welcome to IR.

I don't exactly know the price of the 72mm R72 but as Adiemus has indicated it's more than S$170/-. As he has said, don't let that stop you. If you have a smaller diameter lens maybe one of the guys can let you try it on the 300D before you throw in the cash. But then if you want to test it with the Tamron, don't think anyone has tried IR with that lens.

Watch out for our next shoot, come join us and see what we can work out.

jbma · 13th February 2005

Originally Posted by sumball

Wow! Dun sabo me lar , I am no expert photographer but IR is good. Any idea how much is a 72mm Hoya R72 filter cost? Wanna try on my 300D with my Tamron 24-135mm lens. Any idea of this combo? Can take IR?

I think IR filter at the fifties mm range already cost a lot. A 72mm should be a bombshell. Hey but then again what is that cost compared to teh satisfaction you going to get. So Sumball just BUY BUY BUY!

jbma · 13th February 2005

Originally Posted by teerex

jbma, you're too modest. Your bird shots have fascinated me for a long time. Perhaps one of these days, you could try some bird IR shots and see what results are like.

Thank you for your kind words Teerex. I have been learning when I was in Primary 1 and am still learning now. You learn new things everyday. Sometimes you learn from a kid on how to be happy in life. I am sure that birds in IR would be an interesting option. Will try that one day. But with birds you will need a long lens and the IR filter will cost more than a bomb, if you can find one.

teerex · 13th February 2005

Originally Posted by jbma

Thank you for your kind words Teerex. I have been learning when I was in Primary 1 and am still learning now. You learn new things everyday. Sometimes you learn from a kid on how to be happy in life. I am sure that birds in IR would be an interesting option. Will try that one day. But with birds you will need a long lens and the IR filter will cost more than a bomb, if you can find one.

Agree with you jbma, we learn everyday, whether it's from a kid or from a older person. There's no end to learning.

Yes, IR filters for large diameter lenses are very expensive. As a alternative you may wish to have a try with acrylic IR filters like the Cokin P007, this is a 3" x 3" filter where you may be able to just hold it over the lens while you shoot if you do not have the holder. But the P007 gives different results from the Hoya R72.

I use my 67mm R72 on a Sigma Super Macro II APO with the help of a step up filter, 58mm to 67mm. Depending on the diameter of your long zoom, you may wish to take this option to have one IR filter to fit most of your lenses.

teerex · 13th February 2005

Originally Posted by jbma

I think IR filter at the fifties mm range already cost a lot. A 72mm should be a bombshell. Hey but then again what is that cost compared to teh satisfaction you going to get. So Sumball just BUY BUY BUY!

I bought a 52mm Hoya R72 about 6 months back from John - around S$38/-
67mm Hoya R72 about 2 months back from TK - around S$80/-

Sizes above 67mm are

. This may serve as a guide to prices of the R72.

Hosea · 14th February 2005

Originally Posted by jbma

This is my first try at IR. I tried 2 different processes. Comments appreciated.

Nice to see you shooting IR, now I will have more beautiful IR photos to view

jbma · 14th February 2005

Originally Posted by Hosea

Nice to see you shooting IR, now I will have more beautiful IR photos to view

Hehe. This from a man who travels far and wide and brings us wonderful shots of his travel. You should try some IR shots on your travel next time. I'm waiting!

12th February 2005	#4
teerex Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,653	Nice to know that expert photographers like jbma and sumball are reading the IR forum and are beginning to join in shooting IR. We definitely can learn a lot from these guys, hope that more expert photogs will come in and share their expertise with us. jbma, my opinions of your 2 shots. #1 seem ok, may require a little longer exposure like pablo mentioned. Don't know if that is the cause of the dark sky, but can try longer exposure to find out if that is the cause. I took the liberty to ps that pic to get white foliage and I think white foliage looks better. But then, unless you like the purplish tinge in the foliage then that's fine. You may wish to have a look for comparison - #2 seem like it over exposed in the center of the shot or is it what they call hot spot. I have also done some ps to that pix to bring down the brightness in the center and given it white foliage. But then I guess you are better than many of us at ps. Those are just my opinions. Keep Shooting and show. Pablo - you guessed right __________________ *Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.* teerex@myinfrared.com Last edited by teerex; 12th February 2005 at 06:26 PM.

12th February 2005	#1
jbma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tampines Posts: 3,315	My first IR Shots This is my first try at IR. I tried 2 different processes. Comments appreciated.

12th February 2005	#2
Pablo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Blue/Green Planet Posts: 1,855	Hi jmba, You use the Canon 10D ? (in your profile). The first one probably needed longer exposure time. The 20D definately needs long exposures I find. #2 is definately getting there. I am not good at PS but I would guess teerex would like a play with your photo. You set the CWB to a green tree or grass ? Cheers __________________ Time, is an effortless construction :)

12th February 2005	#3
sumball Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,224	Wah, jbma. You no long shooting the sunbird but shooting IR liao ah? Think yo uneed to learn more from the experts here. haha Try more, shoot more.

12th February 2005	#10
Adiemus Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Small island.... Posts: 1,563	Hey jbma! Great to have another IR photgrapher in our midst! Hope to see more posts from you soon. All that I can comment on the pictures have already been covered. Keep them coming....