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    Let say i'm being paid for doing some artistic shots of individuals (male or female) in Singapore, will it violate any law?

    I know a model release is required to protect the rights of my photographs; but is there any other kind of model release (different from the normal kind) required for such shoots? Also in the event if i do need a witness to be around, can my assistant be one? or must he/she be a third party?

    Thank you for looking.

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    Model release is just an agreement between you and the model chieftly about the usage of the images.

    You or your lawer could put anything on it as long as the model agrees to sign it.

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    There is no Singapore law that states that artistic photography job is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behyx
    Let say i'm being paid for doing some artistic shots of individuals (male or female) in Singapore, will it violate any law
    I guess it depends on how you define "artistic" and whether your models reach the legal age for "artisitic posing" or not.

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    There is no law saying that it's legal too. Maybe our vince123123 would love to clarify for us.

    Ok this how I go about doing artistic shoots.

    1) Model not only sign a release form but it's better to draft out a black and white letter stating that she will not take any action against you and the rest of the photographers. A Model Release form is not just a form. It's the most important document.
    2) In the letter itself, all the participants will need to sign as well as not to distribute, circulate, publish and so on so that the model will not be exposed to the public.
    3) Try to make sure that all the participants and the model are 21 and above. Especially the model. That is the safest age.
    4) Should be done in a studio but profesionally. IT IS A MUST TO HAVE A FEMALE person to be your witness when shooting. Even if the model tells you that it is safe but don't trust her words as you will never know what might happend.
    5) A Profesionnal/Experience Photographer with experience should be with the participants to pose for her.
    6) Try not to shoot anything too lewd or indecent. (For example her private parts) If you know how to shoot it, it will look very good. Go look for a few books before you all start to shoot.
    7) A maximum of 8 participants is usually what I will accomodate. No more than that as the model will be very tired.
    8) It's best to ask around a little more info before organizing an artistic shoot.
    9) When shooting, only one participants is allowed to enter. No group shooting please! Reason? The model will not feel comfortable.
    10) Most of the time Artistic means showing more body parts and less or no clothes. Showing parts of her body contour where you never get to see under normal circumstances. So plain and simple english.
    11) It does not matter whether it's a paid job. Follow it and you will not be in trouble.

    I am not sure there is more to add but if there is, pls feel free add on. Anyway this is how I conduct mine artistic shoots. Different organisers do it differently. Hope the others will share a little with our members who organise shoots.

    Thanks!

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    Thank you guys, esp Pro Image

    In fact, what i will be doing is more towards the homosexual community locally. And it might lean more towards the nude category if the client issist.

    Legally, will it pose any differences in normal female artistic shoots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by behyx
    Thank you guys, esp Pro Image

    In fact, what i will be doing is more towards the homosexual community locally. And it might lean more towards the nude category if the client issist.

    Legally, will it pose any differences in normal female artistic shoots?
    No diff. NUDE is still NUDE.

    But.........doing a series of homosexual community will be one of the most challenging things in photography. It basically boils down on how well you interact with the subject. In this area, photography carries only 50% of your final input. The 50% is really depends on your communicating skills with them.

    Not many photographers are keen on shooting homosexuality. This is subject which needs preparation, reading, research, understanding homosexuals are still human and so on. I would not categorize this under nude photography but leaning towards more Documentary Photography where you are recording the life of homosexuals.

    I am not sure whether CS would allowed at all to document such photos. I guess is quite subjective. Depends on how the photos are being taken. I think this opportunity given to will make you become not only a better photographer but a better understanding about human behaviour.

    Good luck! Hope to see an exibition about this documented photos.
    Last edited by Pro Image; 12th February 2005 at 02:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behyx
    Thank you guys, esp Pro Image

    In fact, what i will be doing is more towards the homosexual community locally. And it might lean more towards the nude category if the client issist.

    Legally, will it pose any differences in normal female artistic shoots?
    on the surface of things, it should not differ.

    milking the pink $? hehe.

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    unless I'm wrong, criminal laws are prohibitive. as long as its not stated that its illegal, its legal. you dont need laws telling you that eating char kway teow is legal now do you ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro Image
    There is no law saying that it's legal too. Maybe our vince123123 would love to clarify for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123
    unless I'm wrong, criminal laws are prohibitive. as long as its not stated that its illegal, its legal. you dont need laws telling you that eating char kway teow is legal now do you ?
    haha! this is a good one! thanks vince!

    by the way, is there any good (simple) law book for photographers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123
    unless I'm wrong, criminal laws are prohibitive. as long as its not stated that its illegal, its legal. you dont need laws telling you that eating char kway teow is legal now do you ?
    vince, u love char kway teow, dont u?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123
    unless I'm wrong, criminal laws are prohibitive. as long as its not stated that its illegal, its legal. you dont need laws telling you that eating char kway teow is legal now do you ?
    Anyone wants to bring law into a photo forum, you'll get Char Kway Teow as a legal basis for expert discussion without the bills.

    Another Char Kway Teow Lover.
    Last edited by Sion; 12th February 2005 at 02:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by behyx
    haha! this is a good one! thanks vince!

    by the way, is there any good (simple) law book for photographers?
    I think I've bought the last copy of "Char Kway Teow Laws for Photographers" from Konikunia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123
    unless I'm wrong, criminal laws are prohibitive. as long as its not stated that its illegal, its legal. you dont need laws telling you that eating char kway teow is legal now do you ?
    3 packets extra "HAM", prawn, chilly and some chinese sausage.....to go!

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    haha actually so so only lah. I only used that as an example cos i remembered that someone else in this forum drew that analogy before so I'm just reiterating it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Astin
    vince, u love char kway teow, dont u?

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