Trying to start a flame war bro? :bsmile:Originally Posted by donut88
Trying to start a flame war bro? :bsmile:Originally Posted by donut88
The light is all the same for all cameras. The main ingredients like shutter, aperture, focal length, ISO are also the same. Some minor differences in the sensors and in the operations of the cameras. Some very interesting and useful features are not available in the usual C&N suspects. More to find out for yourself if you are brave enough to overcome this 'play safe' attitude. We are talking about consumer electronics, after all.
+1 I second thisOriginally Posted by Octarine
Perhaps you can think of it as these newer companies having to squeeze in more functions and better performance for a lower price than the canikon variants and thus are more value for money :3
Last edited by Fudgecakes; 26th August 2012 at 03:34 PM.
I always feel that every brand makes good camera. I always think this way, I have two good images from two people using different brands of camera. I'd have no idea who uses which. Sure enough, there are times I tried guessing the brand and model which some of the folks here are using, I'm more often than not proven wrong.
There are so much to learn than to spend asking which is better. If u need faster fps then compare fps between brands and models. Just make sure u read up on what places are better to get your camera and what is the market price.
An example how little the influence of camera brand and type can be, depending on the subject:
Kidding (The article is from Oct 2008, cameras have advanced further since...)
The trained eye can see details pointing to the camera model, nobody claims that both pictures are similar. But everyone has to decide whether the difference is worth spending the money.
1) Nikon D320
2) Sony A57
3) Canon 600D
Pentax is out of my budget.... =(
Maybe if got salesman do weird tatics, change salesman first before walking out...try my luck? Maybe different salesman offer different price?
I think I won't bother with a tripod then, maybe borrow from my friends. Thank you for your help!
Now all you need to do is to go down to a megastore; courts, Harvey norman etc where they have such cameras on display and ask the salesman to let u try them out. Play around with them and see which suits you better.Originally Posted by shaze
Perhaps if Te button layout seems logical to you, whether the camera has more buttons to press or do you have to dive into the menus very often, whether you prefer to turn the zoom ring clockwise or anti clockwise when shooting, whether the grip on the camera feels good to you etc
These small details will make you whole shooting experience that much more enjoyable because performance wise, I'm sure they all are more or less the same.
Last edited by Fudgecakes; 26th August 2012 at 07:48 PM.
Well try the cameras out and you will understandOriginally Posted by shaze
Sticking to DSLRs is alright if you are within a strict budget, but from a photographers perspective I think the buy-DSLR reasons are increasingly hard to come by.
In this made-in-China world following brands is not a guarantee of quality. Not just for cameras but for any electronic product. I have personal experience in this since no electronic item I own is conventional.
In the last eight years I have deliberately opted for features over brands, following reviews and ratings over what the salesperson may recommend. My first camera was a Fuji S6500FD (bought 2005 and still used by my brother). I now use a Samsung NX (b. May 2010). My phone is a ZTE Blade a.k.a Orange San Francisco (b. March 2011). My mp3 player is a Sandisk Sansa Clip (b. Dec 2009). I don't take care of my things very well but all work no problems. Brands mean very little to me anymore.
Samsung NX10+30mm, Fuji S6500FD
I feel that, if TS looking for entry dslr, all major brands are almost equally good. By major brands, I dun just mean Canon and Nikon. I feel that ppl always think of these two brands as 'the brand' for cameras as they are often seen in major professional events like sporting events, where u see all the 1Ds/D3s and pro glasses. In the pro category, they are definitely the better ones?
Entry lvl? All are equally gd with their own USP. Pentax are known for weather-sealing, Sony for higher fps. Canon is still a gd all-rounder, I feel, thou some ppl have an issue with its slightly smaller apsc (1.6x) sensor. Nikon has some issues with some lens compatibilty (not too sure about the details; I may wrong about this, dun shoot me).
With Pentax, Sony, and Nikon, you also have the option to use older cheaper MF glasses for creativity.
I personally would recommend Sony's SLT based on your shooting requirements. But the best way is to go to the shops n feel the ergonomics before committing. Online reviews can tell u everything except ergonomics.
all brand of camera with interchangeable lens uses their own propriety lens mount. It is a no brainer that nikon body can't directly mount a canon lens or Sony lens.Originally Posted by silvermoon1407
Hi TS, like you I was looking at DSLR as well. I was deciding between the Pentax K30 and Sony A57. I have read around and did quite a bit of research before narrowing it down to these 2. Features wise, for entry level these 2 are the most value for money. Don't know why you said that the pentax is out of budget. K30 with kit is under 1000. K30 with 18-135 is 13xx. Sony A57 for a period of time they were giving away a free 50mm/1.8. Can try calling MS Color. Not sure if they still have the promo.
In the end I bought the OM-D, simply because I was able to get staff price, and it's just o so sexy.
SLT is not mirrorless. Read more before posting.
Right now the Pentax has the best noise performance of the lot. You need to read more. Also, "major" does not mean more reliable. For an example, Luminous Landscape took Canons, Nikons and Sonys to antarctica. Guess which one did not fail?
Better IQ in what sense? The Sony A65 (same sensor as the D3200) has better image quality from the reviews I could see. Also, at High ISO, the Pentax and A57 will be better.
If you like crop sensor buy any brands, but if one day you were going to venture full frame, try to choose a nikon or canon. Got an Olympus E520(olympus don't produce full frame digital) and got some manual lens, was happy with my photos, but eventually when I go into canon eos film camera(similar to full frame) , end up need to buy everything again (flash, lens adapter etc).Originally Posted by shaze
You can consider sony also heard they are coming out with mirrorless full frame, but their lens its not coming cheap (I think they are using zeiss lens)
I think beside the quality you should also look into the accessories available (eg most third party flash and grip are easily and cheaply available for nikon and canon) (tamron lens i think is only available for canon and nikon also)
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I was refering to something like this, notably the lack of AF on entry nikons with AF/AF-D lenses, not the physical incompatibility of the mount per se.Originally Posted by coolthought
Save up the rest of the money for your next camera and it's accessories.
Why pentax k-x?
1. It's cheap
2. It's good enough for a newbie
3. It uses AA batteries instead of specialized model
4. just read the review to know more