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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123

    dude.. that dude was using a 580 EX II at FULL power... my eyes hurt after the 5th or 6th time he fired off the flash.. and it came with pre-flashes too...
    I only fire the flash for fill in when taking people with landscapes. Perhaps he was trying to fill in? Maybe the cam is "smart" programme to do so? πŸ˜œπŸ˜ŠπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜β˜ΊπŸ˜²πŸ˜
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoth

    I think as a noob, like myself, would really appreciate if seniors can advise me on d spot at times when not able to shoot to the effect I want. Cheers. Tatz me personally though, and probably for most noobs... Photography shouldnt be a lonely journey...
    How do you know the advice you get is sound or not? Only seek advice from those you know who can give you sound advice....
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    photography is a skill whereby even with the same set-up, same lighting and same settings, you can get many different results depending on how you shoot. from the angle, to the positioning of the subject, to the use of props, you can achieve different results.

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    I'll give advice to those who seek advise

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino123

    Basically from your given example... well, like what many had pointed out... you do not know what that guy is trying to do... and to get a correct exposure at that situation, you do not need a fill flash (or change angle or what ever, there are a couple of ways to do it right, which for all you know, that guy is practicing that.)

    For example

    1) Correctly expose his girlfriend and let everything else get overexposed, and it might be what he is doing.
    2) Get a few exposure, then do HDR later on.

    So, as you see, that might be what that fella is doing, and if you jump in and give what you think is right, you might end up looking like the 'wrong' one.
    True last time when I was a noob i thought it is impossible to take photo with backlight and you sure are going to get an underexpose pic but later i found out that by using spot metering you can measure the correct exposure of your subject and get a very beautiful washed out background not necessary need to use a fill flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blive View Post
    How do you know the advice you get is sound or not? Only seek advice from those you know who can give you sound advice....
    Sometimes unsound advice can also be good advice. There was this guy who was saying that the flash from his in-built flash was too strong for the subject, so I casually suggested that he use his palm to cup it...a couple of others PGs gave me that "Huh?!" look...but end of the day, the guy went home a happy man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blive View Post
    I only fire the flash for fill in when taking people with landscapes. Perhaps he was trying to fill in? Maybe the cam is "smart" programme to do so? πŸ˜œπŸ˜ŠπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜β˜ΊπŸ˜²πŸ˜
    If he was trying to fill in, it must be some ghosts.. 'cause there was absolutely no one infront of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    dude.. that dude was using a 580 EX II at FULL power... my eyes hurt after the 5th or 6th time he fired off the flash.. and it came with pre-flashes too...
    Well... that is the problem with Auto mode. When on Auto mode, even with attached flash, the flash will automatically fire off when the camera 'think' that the environment is too dark. And I bet, he had his redeye reduction feature on too... so the flash will fire off a series of pre-flashes to reduce red eyes effect.

    So... my soundest advise so far was... please don't use Auto on everything. I mean Auto is good in certain area, but never good in everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma
    Hi seniors, sempais, friends and fellow clubsnappers,

    I am wondering if any of you have felt compelled to give free advice or share photography tips with other hobbyists while out on shooting trips.

    Now just to put things in perspective I am not an accomplished photographer. but I can't tahan when people are not aware of how the light falls and get poor results and keep frowning at their camera. Do any of you sometimes do feel like putting people out of their "misery"?

    eg. Yesterday, I was at Marina Barrage in the afternoon. I saw a guy with a very very nice gear : what seems to be a 5D (not sure which version) - with no built in flash - and a L lens (seemed to be 70-200 F4 L ). He was with his girlfriend who looks photogenic enough, and carrying a bunch of plastic flowers (i know the flowers is irrelevant). ok to the relevant part: he was shooting his gf with the sun behind her (4pm blazing summer sun no clouds) and no flashgun and no onboard flash (because DSLR don't have).

    I think if I shot like that with the most expensive camera in the world, the gf would still look underexposed? (not sure if 5D have a mode "backlighted" mode like some PnS have?). In any case this seemed to be the cause of his dissatisfied pictures because he kept shaking his head... then proceeding to repeat the same shooting angle with his gf backlit by the sun.

    I watched for a while and felt like telling him he would do better with some fill flash, or to change the angle.

    What would you do?

    I decided to respect him and mind my own biz.

    I really felt like telling him, but too paiseh. Not nice for me to suggest to him in front of his gf wait he lose face?
    He probably know more than you. Best way to do if you are really kaypoh, is to ask him to let you see the photo he has just taken.

    My take;
    I was thinking whether should I meddle with the setting when an old man pass me his dslr with flash to shoot him and his wife at Clark quay. Heck, just shoot one first and check. It turned out to be a very beautifully exposed photo of them with the Clark quay night scene behind them... I almost wanted to ask him if he take any student then...
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    When I'm out taking photos, I'm so occupied I can hardly afford any time to take a peep at what other people are doing, let alone deciding if they were doing anything "wrong" and if I should let them know....
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    Most camera buyers out there just like to flaunt their equipment.

    Advising them makes them look stupid. It's a pride thing.

    As a rule I only give advice when asked.

    Actually this applies to anything really, not just photography.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahmatt
    Most camera buyers out there just like to flaunt their equipment.

    Advising them makes them look stupid. It's a pride thing.

    As a rule I only give advice when asked.

    Actually this applies to anything really, not just photography.
    Yeah lor. I won't give advice as well, only when asked to give advice

    In fact I will secretly laugh to myself if they are doing wrong things with their equipment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahmatt View Post
    Most camera buyers out there just like to flaunt their equipment.

    Advising them makes them look stupid. It's a pride thing.

    As a rule I only give advice when asked.

    Actually this applies to anything really, not just photography.
    Yes, and everyone thinks that they are not "most camera buyers" out there. But everyone has their limits to their knowledge, at the end of the day if you have not seen the result, I don't think it's fair to put yourself on a high pedestal and assume that whoever is doing something is not doing it right because you don't know for sure. Just imagine, if you saw a really good photographer shooting and you didn't know who he was but he was doing really interesting stuff that you don't understand, so you think he's being silly. Laugh at him, in front, behind... Then you go home, see the result and... Well, the egg would be on your face.

    There are exceptions, like I say. Generally speaking I cannot think of a good reason for someone to be using built-in flash on buildings (with no people in frame obviously) but I personally prefer to give people that I happen to see the benefit of the doubt because photography is about taking photographs and not about gaining some knowledge to feel superior to people who may or may not know better. That's just an additional exercise in your life that doesn't add any value, frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Best one I ever got was: "Dude, where did you buy the Carl Zeiss sticker for that lens?" :P
    you should have answered i bought it somewhere, this piece of sticker costs me $1k plus....hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by donut88 View Post
    Yeah lor. I won't give advice as well, only when asked to give advice

    In fact I will secretly laugh to myself if they are doing wrong things with their equipment
    Frankly... how can you tell if the person you are secretly laughing at doing correct or wrong things with their equipment? Are you really that accomplished that you know exactly what others are thinking and doing and if they are doing it wrong. I don't think even the most professionals of professionals out there can confidently laugh at others until they see the results of the shots.

    Like I say... I hated it when strangers came up to me and tell me that I am holding my camera or lenses wrong. Well... how the hell they know the rational behind my holding that way and how in the world do they know what I am trying to accomplish.
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    A bit OT but jus share share, went for a group outing recently, there were 2 guys who decided to give advice to 2 girls who were not in the group, end up the 2 guys went missing with the 2 gals -_-"
    Found out later they went off for dinner...
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    best advice : hungry? not fun to shoot on empty tummy. let's go eat. I buy.

    if anyone asked me this I would heartily concur he he he
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    photography is a good way to pick up chicks....

    if you have the skills in both

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackster View Post
    A bit OT but jus share share, went for a group outing recently, there were 2 guys who decided to give advice to 2 girls who were not in the group, end up the 2 guys went missing with the 2 gals -_-"
    Found out later they went off for dinner...
    醉翁之意不在酒

    But I always treat group photo outings as a chance to socialise and know more folks anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    photography is a good way to pick up chicks....

    if you have the skills in both
    Some cameras are more magnetic than others and will give you a head start.


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    Quote Originally Posted by giantcanopy View Post
    醉翁之意不在酒

    But I always treat group photo outings as a chance to socialise and know more folks anyway.



    Some cameras are more magnetic than others and will give you a head start.

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