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    Quote Originally Posted by dan94iel View Post
    When I first tried photography was using my friend's 550D, kinda amazed by what effects it could achieve, especially with the bokeh! Then my friend coached me in using a DSLR, mostly in manual mode. Then I bought myself a 50D and learned all the other modes. Found that I liked aperture priority and shutter priority useful, especially for street shooting. I think that there is nothing to be ashamed about auto mode, used it on several occasions when I was lazy :P
    Bokeh is not an "effect" of the camera body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309

    Bokeh is not an "effect" of the camera body.
    Sorry :/ more like while using his 50mm f1.8 lens at maximum aperture. Didn't type that in a more concious state of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan94iel View Post
    Sorry :/ more like while using his 50mm f1.8 lens at maximum aperture. Didn't type that in a more concious state of mind.
    and bokeh in photography is more or less the quality of the blur. NOT the blur itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309

    and bokeh in photography is more or less the quality of the blur. NOT the blur itself
    Yeah I understand. I was making a comparison to handphone cameras and compacts. With the bokeh from a DSLR system and a lens with a wide aperture, depending on the number of aperture blades giving better bokeh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan94iel
    ...depending on the number of aperture blades giving better bokeh.
    Ooops..

    It only determines the shape of the blur circle. It has little or nothing to do with the quality of blur.
    Last edited by digitalpimp; 29th June 2012 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avsquare


    I am just speaking based on consumer psychology. Now you know why everyone is holding a DSLR these days and a good majority of them (if they are Canon users, sorry I am a Canon users and not familiar with other systems) are 1100D, 550D and 600D users. Because these 3 models have became the new standard for PnS cameras in Singapore. Your m4/3 mirrorless solutions has relegated to become the once-awesome Sony Ericsson 10.1MP and 12MP handphone cameras.. And as for PnS, these people see it like your ancient 1.3MP to 8MP handphone cameras.
    Wah so that means im shooting assignments on handphone camera equivalents? Wow i must be damn zai.

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    While i am in the agreement that output is all that it counts, a keen beginner will soon explore and acquire the know hows various auto modes and manual settings. As compared to someone who has all the tools in front of him but never chooses to go the further distance but rely only on P mode, I think we know the former has much more options at hand to handle new and different situations such as star trails, super long exposures etc.

    Yes many seasoned folks here use P mode as well and some swear by them. But I am pretty darn sure you guys already have a mastery of the functions and when best to use them.

    In the meanwhile lets restrain ourselves from doing unwanted collateral damages on branding talks and the likes.

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    my friend yesterday buy Canon 600D and not 650D cos the sale person say 650D first batch all return back to Canon. don't know what problem.

    my friend also sign up for the Canon training.

    does all DSLR provide free training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan94iel View Post
    Yeah I understand. I was making a comparison to handphone cameras and compacts. With the bokeh from a DSLR system and a lens with a wide aperture, depending on the number of aperture blades giving better bokeh.
    No. number of blades was only part of the equation for rounder off focus light and most probably better quality OOF light spots. However that is just part of what give a better quality of blur, but bokeh is more than that.

    The lens design, the design of the aperture blades (shape of blades), the number of elements, the optics, the coating, etc etc of the lens overall give the quality of blur. And in some lens system, you don't see aperture blades (mirror lens for example). Thus it is very wrong to say that the number of aperture blades giving better bokeh... sometime they don't.

    Finally background blur can be achieve even with not that wide aperture, it all depends on the DOF calculation and yourself to your subject
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino123

    No. number of blades was only part of the equation for rounder off focus light and most probably better quality OOF light spots. However that is just part of what give a better quality of blur, but bokeh is more than that.

    The lens design, the design of the aperture blades (shape of blades), the number of elements, the optics, the coating, etc etc of the lens overall give the quality of blur. And in some lens system, you don't see aperture blades (mirror lens for example). Thus it is very wrong to say that the number of aperture blades giving better bokeh... sometime they don't.

    Finally background blur can be achieve even with not that wide aperture, it all depends on the DOF calculation and yourself to your subject
    Oh, thanks for the information! I think abit OT from the topic. Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    if set to auto liao still can not get a good picture, so how leh?
    try fishing....

    catch butterflies....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    and bokeh in photography is more or less the quality of the blur. NOT the blur itself
    organize a class with "bokeh" theories !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunston View Post
    organize a class with "bokeh" theories !
    good idea as i getting my new D7000 soon..

    Nikon provide free training?

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    is bokeh really so important? is that the reason why ppl getting dslr for? (bokeh?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by steventay View Post
    good idea as i getting my new D7000 soon..

    Nikon provide free training?
    you can get those "theories" online...

    and I think its better to know what is, ISO, Aperture and shutter speed first than the "bokeh" theories.

    and do read your manual..
    Last edited by nicorn; 29th June 2012 at 05:50 PM.

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    not sure if Nikon does provide or not. how about reading the sticky threads in this newbie subforum got many useful and not too technical guides to shooting in the advanced modes.

    or you could shoot in auto. except that where more exposure required eg very white the camera might get bluffed

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    Default Re: Shooting DSLR in Auto Mode = wasted ?

    Quote Originally Posted by nicorn View Post
    is bokeh really so important? is that the reason why ppl getting dslr for? (bokeh?)
    Eh bokeh is mostly due to the lens, and some factor make it bokeh-er would be the sensor lah. Hard to explain, but heck, even my Fuji HS20 30x p&s camera gives you bokeh.
    But then for me if you want to achieve exactly what you have in mind, how you want it, and you know how to do it via manual, esp when the idiot camera is fooled, then manual mode is the way to go. Means you want to go a step further and a perfectionist, an artist in image manipulation (sun streaks, slow shutter, panning etc). Because it's something P mode can't always give you. If some are happy with P, so be it. Let P=comfort zone.
    Last edited by dennisc; 29th June 2012 at 06:13 PM.

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    Can't understand why ppl are so hard up about bokeh......

    What's the big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicorn View Post
    you can get those "theories" online...

    and I think its better to know what is, ISO, Aperture and shutter speed first than the "bokeh" theories.

    and do read your manual..
    Where to find?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma View Post
    not sure if Nikon does provide or not. how about reading the sticky threads in this newbie subforum got many useful and not too technical guides to shooting in the advanced modes.

    or you could shoot in auto. except that where more exposure required eg very white the camera might get bluffed
    Canon provide and Nikon don't have?

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