Oh yah and I just rmb we are talking about video here. Before wide angles was the in thing I'm pretty sure the old time VGs shot at about 30mm equiv. with their camcorders... You can live without ultra-wide perspective since you can pan while shooting video. Now it completely puzzles me why TS is complaining about lack of space with 28mm equivalent (pro camcorder standard in 2008-2009, did it get wider??).