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    Quote Originally Posted by wong_se View Post
    so to speak, it is nothing about u happy or not. the eco is the culprit to drag the ranking down.
    If you are talking happy or not, then you should be looking at #35, which isn't even a HPI unique ranking. It just takes 3 different things from other sources and comes up with its own number, i.e. the HPI:

    Experienced well-being.
    If you want to know how well someone’s life is going, your best bet is to ask them directly. In this year’s HPI, experienced well-being is assessed using a question called the ‘Ladder of Life’ from the Gallup World Poll. This asks respondents to imagine a ladder, where 0 represents the worst possible life and 10 the best possible life, and report the step of the ladder they feel they currently stand on.

    Life expectancy.
    Alongside experienced well-being, the HPI includes a universally important measure of health – life expectancy. We used life expectancy data from the 2011 UNDP Human Development Report

    Ecological Footprint.
    The HPI uses the Ecological Footprint promoted by the environmental charity WWF as a measure of resource consumption. It is a per capita measure of the amount of land required to sustain a country’s consumption patterns, measured in terms of global hectares (g ha) which represent a hectare of land with average productive biocapacity.
    I suppose based on how they have phrased the part on experienced well-being above, the source of data seems to change. I base this on the use of the words "In this year's HPI". As such, it may not be a fair comparison to compare it to previous rankings? I suppose to be sure about this one would have to read through the report in detail.
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    Don't believe in such foolishness. Reality is different from so-called Happiness Index. It is a load of crap.

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    too many reasons :

    1: Freedom: we dont have strong union. garment said what we do what. they put erp, increase this and that, we got no say, we can't protest on the street.
    2: country is rich but people are poor. inflation rate and etc..... cost of living grow really fast, but salary dont grow. again, we dont have strong union, we cannot argue for minimum wages.
    3: FT. too many liao. in most countries, the rate is 1:5(1 local, 5 ft), here is 10:1(10 FT, 1 local).
    4: employee benefit really cmi.
    5:....etc...

    when people said dont complain, you also also said dont complain. use your own judgement. We are given a brain, use it. dont let people brain wash you. know who you vote for.
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    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by philip113 View Post
    Naah as long you happy most important BTW for a pretty woman like you with good general knowledge back ground and Good camera skill ? Quite rare indeed , cheers

    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Singapore ranked 90th in latest Happy Planet Index - Yahoo! News Singapore

    Dropped from 49 to 90 in just a few years. What happened?
    Not happy because of losing money in Casinos?


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    Once we reach the last spot, I guess it's time to move country (or planet), whichever is happier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Not happy because of losing money in Casinos?

    Nah, can't be. I know some ppl who are also not happy when they are winning. Probably havent won "enough" (in their definition).
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    My take on happiness, because as a society SG prioritize too much on $ chasing. Singaporeans all wanting to own this and having that, things we practically don't need, everything must be No.1. It's basically filling up a bottomless pit. But can't be helped, standard of living is too high, everything price increase. Only the rich at the top can be happy at the poor's expense.
    How to be happy? Let go of all material desires, live within your means. Easier said than done, when the entire world order is based sustaining a materialistic lifestyle. Everything we do since young, from studying, to marriage to work is to feed that pattern. Unless one have the courage to forsake it all, than can happiness be found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by de_stan View Post
    My take on happiness, because as a society SG prioritize too much on $ chasing. Singaporeans all wanting to own this and having that, things we practically don't need, everything must be No.1. It's basically filling up a bottomless pit. But can't be helped, standard of living is too high, everything price increase. Only the rich at the top can be happy at the poor's expense.
    Some people will probably blame this on the government, instead of themselves...
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    Quote Originally Posted by de_stan
    My take on happiness, because as a society SG prioritize too much on $ chasing. Singaporeans all wanting to own this and having that, things we practically don't need, everything must be No.1. It's basically filling up a bottomless pit. But can't be helped, standard of living is too high, everything price increase. Only the rich at the top can be happy at the poor's expense.
    How to be happy? Let go of all material desires, live within your means. Easier said than done, when the entire world order is based sustaining a materialistic lifestyle. Everything we do since young, from studying, to marriage to work is to feed that pattern. Unless one have the courage to forsake it all, than can happiness be found.
    Quote Originally Posted by justme77

    Some people will probably blame this on the government, instead of themselves...
    But really, the system in Singapore is such that you have to live within the system. You cannot just forgo everythg and go live on Chanvi Beach or Sembawang Beach. You will kena rounded up one.......

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    Not just Singapore, every Capitalist country in the world is doing so. But hey I doubt the N.Koreans are any happier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sispecho View Post
    But really, the system in Singapore is such that you have to live within the system. You cannot just forgo everythg and go live on Chanvi Beach or Sembawang Beach. You will kena rounded up one.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sispecho View Post
    But really, the system in Singapore is such that you have to live within the system. You cannot just forgo everythg and go live on Chanvi Beach or Sembawang Beach. You will kena rounded up one.......
    Why? Even the Occupy Wall Street protesters were rounded up in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sispecho View Post
    ... You cannot just forgo everythg and go live on Chanvi Beach or Sembawang Beach. You will kena rounded up one.......
    She did it...
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    Happiness is a state of mind, regardless of what you have or don't have.
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sispecho View Post
    But really, the system in Singapore is such that you have to live within the system. You cannot just forgo everythg and go live on Chanvi Beach or Sembawang Beach. You will kena rounded up one.......
    you can stay within the system and still be happy. Just live within your means and don't stop compairing what you don't have with what other have.

    Better still, sign on with the army, they give you free food (cookhouse), clothes (army grab), free housing (your bunk) and the pay is not bad either, the only thing you have to do on your own is to find a wife and made babies (if you want babies) and even that, that will assist you ........ the finding a wife part and not the babies part
    I get paid more shooting part time ...... damn, I should find more time to shoot part time

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    When it's citizens travel more and received more educations, the tendency of voicing out their dissatisfaction will increase. It is all about awareness and expectations.

    Those living in 'poor' countries never or are not aware of their own situation. Worst, they do not have any avenue to voice it.

    Singapore is a great place for the rich, no question about this. For average people, you will have to work double hard to match your aspirations. Otherwise, be contended and you will survive with average living standard and long working hours. Miss one step, you will be downgraded to poor.

    So people are feeling so pressurized. How to be happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah View Post
    Singapore is a great place for the rich, no question about this. For average people, you will have to work double hard to match your aspirations. Otherwise, be contended and you will survive with average living standard and long working hours. Miss one step, you will be downgraded to poor.

    So people are feeling so pressurized. How to be happy?
    Even if EVERYONE in Singapore is by some miracle is a multi-millionaire, would they feel happy and contended? Doubt it. They will still be pressurized as they want to be the next billionaire... Although part of it is because of our greedy inner nature, but I believe that the society that we live in also contributes to make us who and what we are and want to be.
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    She can do it because she's not living in Singapore.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme77

    Even if EVERYONE in Singapore is by some miracle is a multi-millionaire, would they feel happy and contended? Doubt it. They will still be pressurized as they want to be the next billionaire... Although part of it is because of our greedy inner nature, but I believe that the society that we live in also contributes to make us who and what we are and want to be.
    While it is true that many singaporeans are very materialistic, living in a resources scare island also didn't help.

    You will never be able to grow something in your backyard, rare some chicken or draw a pail of water from our longkang. No money, you are out of your HDB! It is a very practical world here.

    Many are surviving like slave but they do 'own' or have a roof over their heads provided they don't stop working!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah View Post
    Those living in 'poor' countries never or are not aware of their own situation. Worst, they do not have any avenue to voice it.
    may be poorer country too poor to build speaker corner, so they could only march on the street to voice it..

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