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    I contributed an article to the latest issue, with original text and photos; they look good online!

    Available to read online (starts from page 24).

    Hope to get more people to know more about Timor Leste, and hopefully, visit.

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    Timore Leste is a wrong country created, to begin with. Sorry for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liteon View Post
    Timore Leste is a wrong country created, to begin with. Sorry for them.
    Would not say wrong, they fought for independence and won, in fact a few weeks ago was their 10th Anniversary for this.

    Very unfortunate - YES, they suffered dearly...... but the place is going well now, what they need is real tourists to go and explore the place and show the world what it offers, investors to put up some proper infrastructure, and lastly a set of proper government ministers who aren't stealing so much $$$ in corruption..... it's terrible for that !!

    Eco-tourisim is its future !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by liteon
    Timore Leste is a wrong country created, to begin with. Sorry for them.
    I'm not sure why you feel it's 'wrong', but the fact is, the Timorese suffered greatly under Indonesian rule which was brutal and repressive. Independence was a risk, of course. But you can say the same for Singapore, and we turned out ok here.

    Timor Leste has a long rocky road ahead, but no reason it can't be a success story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by le petit prince View Post
    I'm not sure why you feel it's 'wrong', but the fact is, the Timorese suffered greatly under Indonesian rule which was brutal and repressive. Independence was a risk, of course. But you can say the same for Singapore, and we turned out ok here.

    Timor Leste has a long rocky road ahead, but no reason it can't be a success story.
    Agree.

    Further on the suffering side they suffered bad..... some 250,000 people killed over a 25 year period - now consider this the population now in 2012 is only 1,0190,000.

    thats like 1 MILLION Singaporeans being killed over 25 years - more than a tragedy, it was a declared extermination od people.... very sad.

    As you said - he future is looking bright for them... any they are an oil rich state.... lets see in 20 years where they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dfive View Post
    Agree.

    Further on the suffering side they suffered bad..... some 250,000 people killed over a 25 year period - now consider this the population now in 2012 is only 1,0190,000.

    thats like 1 MILLION Singaporeans being killed over 25 years - more than a tragedy, it was a declared extermination od people.... very sad.

    As you said - he future is looking bright for them... any they are an oil rich state.... lets see in 20 years where they are.
    Guess no, the common people will continue to suffer 10 years later, the leadership (or none of it) from the totally unnecessary civil war created by short sighted political parties during the end of decolonisation is still around. And exactly because of oil rich, there are going to have problems (oil curse). The poem of Nigeria is quite interesting: We Thought it was Oil. But it was Blood . Of course they could break the jinx, I don't bet on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liteon

    Guess no, the common people will continue to suffer 10 years later, the leadership (or none of it) from the totally unnecessary civil war created by short sighted political parties during the end of decolonisation is still around. And exactly because of oil rich, there are going to have problems (oil curse). The poem of Nigeria is quite interesting: We Thought it was Oil. But it was Blood . Of course they could break the jinx, I don't bet on that.
    It's hard to say. It may succeed, it may not. Malaysia and Indonesia, by the way, also have oil, and they had rocky starts at first too. Are they flops now? Not every country is lucky like Singapore, which had a first rated, incorruptible leadership during its formative independence years.

    At least the recent presidential and parliamentary elections in Timor Leste went well; the people and politicians have matured after its first decide as a sovereign state. No guarantee of success, sure, but nor is it a certain recipe for failure. It's important to give it our support, and welcome it into ASEAN.

    If we can give Myanmar so much behind the scene support previously (when it was under the dictatorial military regime), why not a democratic and stable Timor now? (I really hope the news of Singapore being opposed to Timor Leste being part of ASEAN is not true.)

    Viva Timor!

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    Default Re: Photo essay on Timor Leste published in Humaneity Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by liteon View Post
    Guess no, the common people will continue to suffer 10 years later, the leadership (or none of it) from the totally unnecessary civil war created by short sighted political parties during the end of decolonisation is still around. And exactly because of oil rich, there are going to have problems (oil curse). The poem of Nigeria is quite interesting: We Thought it was Oil. But it was Blood . Of course they could break the jinx, I don't bet on that.
    totally unnecessary civil war started by anti-independence mobs. and decolonisation is decolonising from indonesian rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoossh View Post
    totally unnecessary civil war started by anti-independence mobs. and decolonisation is decolonising from indonesian rule.
    Well, yes, it was actually Indonesian military-backed mobs which went wild, leading to the astounding amount of destruction (up to 70% of infrastructure was destroyed) and causing the mass refuge exodus out of the capital and elsewhere. Added to that, the suffering and deaths, as if the people not endured enough for 24 years under Indonesia. It was incredibly criminal to do that to an already improvised nation.

    So if we want to assign blame, then cast it on the Indonesian military which had vested interest in seeing Timor Leste remain under Indonesia.

    78% of Timorese vote for independence in 1999. The vote to separate from Indonesia and be independent was a free and fair one, monitored by the UN.

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