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    hi... was wondering what wide angle lens are used for. been reading abt it but don't really totally understand.

    a) from what i read, wide angle lens allows greater depth of field coz u capture more of the surroundings even those that are nearer to the camera. can't i do that by physically taking a few steps behind?

    b) what are the most common uses and how to use? landscapes, architecture and street photos only?

    c) are the lens really that useful?

    *hehe* thanks for ur replies in advance =p

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    lets say if u are at a condition whereby u can't physically move back a few steps... at that very moment... u will feel that you should had bought a wide angle lens...
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    ...Wide angle lenses gives that slight distortion to the landscape and as a result gives the picture the feeling of 'wide expense' in the landscape.

    ...and yes...what IF you cannot step back then

    REgarding depth-of-field, that's controlled by the aperture and not so much the type of lens. You can increase your depth-of-field by using a smaller aperture e.g. F8, F16 etc...That my friend, is another lesson altogether.

    Hope it helps.

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    well said Del_CtrlnoAlt. imagine a house warming party and the food is placed in the living room. you want to capture the long queue for the food. How big is the living room for you to step back?

    There are also different perspectives when using WAs when compared to physically moving backwards. A tree maybe in the wrong position when you try to capture a scene when moving backwards.

    common use: no fixed rules about usage of lenses, i've seen works with fish eye lenses (the extreme in WAs) doing portraits with very very good effects.
    but landscapes, architecture, street and indoors are quite some common usage.

    really that useful? depends on what you shoot. I wun know if you do indoor shoots in tight spaces will be good. If you do events that you are always positioned at wrong and remote places, a longer lens would be good. There is no good/bad lens becos of it's focal length
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    Wider = can fit in more things

    Ever happen to u when u want to

    (1) do a self portrait of urself and ur friends having kopi but the somehow the final photo always come out with 3.5 faces?

    (2) take group photo and need to ask people to squeeze cos not everyone can fit in the frame? (of course u can conveniently step back but somehow asking people to squeeze takes less effort on your side)?

    (3) take a picture of the interior of a stadium/room and whatever position u move to, u can only see half the stadium/room?

    (4) take picture of the performance/performers but cannot fit the whole performance/ all performers cos u r standing in the front row (after waiting for 2 hours)?

    tats when u wished ur lens could be wider.

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    what if there's always enough room to step back?

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    there could also be things in FRONT that enter your field of view.

    eg: if you want to take a picture of a lake,
    if you step back, you will find land, debris etc in your field of view, maybe a tree as well, etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye
    what if there's always enough room to step back?
    den wats the point of asking the qn then???

    there is always a need for certain length, like if u need to take a picture of a bird den u are armed with a wide angle, are you going to ask the bird to stay still while u point your wide angle infront of the bird's eye?

    so every situation arises for different needs of lens... there is no lens that can provide for every use... even the 50-500 isn't as great as it seems, cos it can't take wide angle... u sure will need a standard 24-75 (for eg) & also a 17-35 for wide angle. or maybe a 10-22 for ultra wide... it all boils down to what pics are u taking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye
    what if there's always enough room to step back?
    Then it depends on what perspective you want. Wide angle will make the background look very distant in proportion to the subject... It will "push back" the background...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cHiLiPaDi
    is Wide Angle Lens = Taking a few steps back (physically)?
    the answer is NO.

    pls refer to: http://www.offstone.com/photo/showthread.php?t=555
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    how come never ask, "Tele Photo Lens = Taking a few steps forward (physically)?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtwo
    how come never ask, "Tele Photo Lens = Taking a few steps forward (physically)?"
    haha.. thats a good question.. try this, use a 14mm lens to take a picture of a friend who is say few meters away from you.. then walk up close to him so that his face can fill the frame and see the picture.. your friend will look more like an ET.. .

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    There are a number of points brought up, some inaccurate

    1 From a fixed position, a wide angle lens will take in more of the scene than a normal or tele lens. This is straight forward.

    2 Wide angle lenses causes distortion. So do tele lens. If you take a person and fill the frame with that person, using a wide angle makes the background recedes. If you use a tele lens to take the same person and fill the frame with that person (of course you have to move back!) the background will look closer to the person. A tele lens Compresses perspective. Make things squashed together.

    So a wide lens if not just taking a few steps back. It is the perspective different perspective that it offers that allow creative possibilities.

    3 Regarding depth of field. There is at least two factors involved. The smaller the aperture the more the depth of field. However the focal length of the lens also matter. The longer the lens, the shallower the depth of field. An f4 on a 19 mm lens have tremendous depth of field, while a 200mm at F4 have a very shallow depth of field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akdwivedi
    try this, use a 14mm lens to take a picture of a friend who is say few meters away from you.. then walk up close to him so that his face can fill the frame and see the picture.. your friend will look more like an ET.. .
    will look like him
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    So, to answer --> Is Wide Angle Lens = Taking a few steps back (physically)?

    Assuming keeping the main subject the same size in the frame;

    Angle of View --> "YES", with some caveats

    Perspective --> NO

    DOF --> "NO", with some caveats

    Distortion --> NO


    Yes?

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