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    Not bad. Little Singapore can pull off this conference yearly.
    Top US brass in town Leon Panetta and General Martin Dempsey.
    Let's see what is in Leon Panetta's policy speech tomorrow.

    side comment - how come all the top conferences held in Shangrila Hotels? The other hotels do not match up to its standards?
    No doubt it is a great hotel chain. Bush stayed at Shangrila when he visited Singapore.
    The World Economic Forum on East Asia currently hosted by Thailand, also held in Shangrila Hotel, Bangkok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    how come all the top conferences held in Shangrila Hotels?
    So they <classified> up <classified> <classified> to <classified> in <classified> <classified> <classified>.
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    Also Shangri-La Dialogue (SLD) <classified> <classified> organised by International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) <classified> <classified <classified> ties to the Freemasons. Front for possible high level discussions pertaining to <classified> <classified> since <classified> <classified> New World Order establishment.
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    Shangri-La Singapore's location is easy to secure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theRBK View Post
    Shangri-La Singapore's location is easy to secure...
    China did not send top brass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    China did not send top brass
    Why would they when nations are discussing with concerns regarding China rise in global and regional ambitions resulting in Uncle Sam pledging to shift the majority of its naval power into the pacific?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by theRBK View Post
    Shangri-La Singapore's location is easy to secure...
    China did not send top brass
    nothing to do with Shang' being easy to secure or not what ... and 9V-Orion Images explained that situation well

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    Why would they when nations are discussing with concerns regarding China rise in global and regional ambitions resulting in Uncle Sam pledging to shift the majority of its naval power into the pacific?
    They aren't showing the regional nations a lot of respect with their approach to diplomacy.

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    Default Re: Shangrila Dialogue 2012

    I think China very pissed with Singapore. On their web, apparently, they discussing how to whack us liow. Hope Uncle Sam will really protect us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    I think China very pissed with Singapore. On their web, apparently, they discussing how to whack us liow. Hope Uncle Sam will really protect us.
    and people are always saying the Singapore Gov always kowtow to China

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    side comment - how come all the top conferences held in Shangrila Hotels? The other hotels do not match up to its standards?
    let me answer that question.

    we studied the position of the Shangri-La hotel in school.

    strategically placed, with roads towards the hotel easily controlled.

    outskirts of the city as well, so that jams are not that bad.

    and due to the construction and layout... ok i shouldn't say more about the placement of security teams...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theRBK View Post
    and people are always saying the Singapore Gov always kowtow to China
    Show of face mah. But deep down inside their heart, they know exactly what the political climate is in this region.

    If the fact that we have defence agreement with the Indians and not the Chinese still does not signify anything. The presence of thousands of our SAF training troops at Taiwan annually despite repeated calls from the PRC government to kindly move them to Hainan might.

    I still laugh when a certain Singaporean minister requested the PRC government to "inform" us in the event that they are about to invade Taiwan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    I still laugh when a certain Singaporean minister requested the PRC government to "inform" us in the event that they are about to invade Taiwan.
    for all we know, that's why the Taiwanese allow us to have training camp there, so that if all SAF people quickly syam off the island, they will know the mainland is gonna attack

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    it is primarily for security reason. where the venue can be cordoned off without causing too much inconveniences, yet afford the prestige of the hotel. imagined that the letter box in front of the hotel was sealed off, part of police operation there. RGS school was used as forward staging point for all emergency vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theRBK View Post
    and people are always saying the Singapore Gov always kowtow to China
    In UNCLE SAM we trust.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM101 View Post
    In UNCLE SAM we trust.....
    Official Chinese sources predicted that there could be up to a hundred billion Barrels of Oil Equivalent (BOE) untapped in the South China Sea.
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    We are not involved in this fight for the islands and the oil near to them. So we stay out of the fight amongst PRC, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, etc....

    US blue water fleet power has protected us and this region in the past few decades. We still need that very much way into the future.

    We should not deride China's rise. There are only 3 places in the whole world (excluding Hong Kong SAR, which is now part of China) where there are majority Chinese.
    China, Taiwan, Singapore. That's it.

    In the 1950s, Chinese were humiliated and looked down upon. Because China was militarily weak, extremely poor, scientifically backward, had derelict built environment and was communist in outlook. Hollywood movies used to stereotype Chinese as the Fu Manchu and Charlie Chan characters.

    Now China (PRC) is more capitalist in actions (though in theory they are communist) than Singapore, is rich, quite open and growing in sophistication. That is good.
    People don't look down on Chinese anymore (the race, not the nationality).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    We are not involved in this fight for the islands and the oil near to them. So we stay out of the fight amongst PRC, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, etc....
    If the PLA is to claim the Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands as theirs, they'll have to maintain a strategic Sea Lines of Communication (SLOC) accessible or deny it for use by foreign powers engaging in freedom of transit passage en route to assist their enemies in combat.

    Crucially what lies at the end of this strategic SLOC?
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    Default Re: Shangrila Dialogue 2012

    Aiyah... other than allowing the big shots to travel and sightsee, when did these kind of meetings and conferences ever solve anything? We have G7, G8, etc. still slow and steady economic meltdown wat.

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