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Old 8th January 2005   #1
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Hi Fellas,
What are the prime lenses (original minolta or 3rd party) available for AF minolta camera models?
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Old 8th January 2005   #2
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Originally Posted by Ben1223
Hi Fellas,
What are the prime lenses (original minolta or 3rd party) available for AF minolta camera models?
There are lots and lots of them, impossible to list everything...

All Minolta AF lenses ever made:
http://www.mhohner.de/minolta/lenses.php?lang=e#fixed

Current lenses:
http://konicaminolta.com/products/co...lens/spec.html
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Originally Posted by Magnus Wedberg
There are lots and lots of them, impossible to list everything...

All Minolta AF lenses ever made:
http://www.mhohner.de/minolta/lenses.php?lang=e#fixed

Current lenses:
http://konicaminolta.com/products/co...lens/spec.html
Thanks. So 135mm is an old lens.
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Originally Posted by Ben1223
Thanks. So 135mm is an old lens.
Yes, but reported to be very good (I have never used it and will likely never own it). The current 135 is the 135/2.8 [T4.5] STF lens, which is a rather extreme portrait lens:
http://www.magnuswedberg.com/docs/STF-review/
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Old 9th January 2005   #5
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Default Old 135mm

Yes, the "old" 135mm 2.8 is a cracking lens. I've used it for many a portrait. It's right up there with my 85mm 1.4 in terms of crips, contrasty images.

Moreover, it's fine on my 7D. And, with the 1.5 magnification I've ended up with what's effectively a 200mm 2.8 for $100 US.

Cheap at twice the price.

Highly recommended, if you can find one.
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Originally Posted by fuzzybuster
Yes, the "old" 135mm 2.8 is a cracking lens. I've used it for many a portrait. It's right up there with my 85mm 1.4 in terms of crips, contrasty images.

Moreover, it's fine on my 7D. And, with the 1.5 magnification I've ended up with what's effectively a 200mm 2.8 for $100 US.

Cheap at twice the price.

Highly recommended, if you can find one.
Thanks guys. I like prime lenses a lot since getting one. I seldom use my 28-70mm f2.8 lens nowadays when I go to shoot. Already have 17mm, 24mm and 105mm macro. Trying to figure out what to get next to have a well-rounded set.
Saw a 135mm on sale here but hesitated. But I don't think it was the STF that Magnus mentioned.
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50mm is a must if you ask me..

Cheap and sharp... 50mm f1.7 or 1.4 version both are very nice...

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Originally Posted by Agetan
50mm is a must if you ask me..

Cheap and sharp... 50mm f1.7 or 1.4 version both are very nice...

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From f1.7 to f1.4. Is this a 1 stop difference?
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Originally Posted by Ben1223
From f1.7 to f1.4. Is this a 1 stop difference?
Not even 1 stop.. shouldn't be a consideration factor.
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I think 1/3 stop...

Well 1.7 is good enough... 1.4 is slightly handier if you have the $$$ for it..

1.4 is about 3 times the price of 1.7

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not 3x, around 2x. The 50mm f1.4 can be bought around S$330 - 350 new.
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f/1.4 + 2/3 stop is f/1.76. Others round it up to f/1.8, KM choose to put it as f/1.7.

Edit: f/1.4 + 1/2 stop is f/1.66.

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Originally Posted by UY79
f/1.4 + 2/3 stop is f/1.76. Others round it up to f/1.8, KM choose to put it as f/1.7.

Edit: f/1.4 + 1/2 stop is f/1.66.

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1.4 to 1.7 is half stop not 2/3 stop.

1.4 * 1.12 (1/3 stop) = f/1.568 = f/1.6

1.4 * 1.19 (half stop) = f/1.67 = f/1.7 ....

1.4 * 1.25 (2/3 stop) = f/1.75 = f/1.8 .......

1.4 * 1.4 (1 stop) = f/1.96 = f/2

1.4 * 2 (2 stop) = f/2.8

Calculating in half stops goes like this :

1 --> 1.2 --> 1.4 --> 1.7 --> 2.0 --> 2.4 --> 2.8 --> 3.4 --> 4 --> 4.8 --> 5.6 ... etc etc ...

Just goes on and on and on

Those are just estimation, due to lots and lots of decimal places to get it correct .
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Thanks for all the info.
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Originally Posted by blurblock
1.4 to 1.7 is half stop not 2/3 stop.

1.4 * 1.12 (1/3 stop) = f/1.568 = f/1.6

1.4 * 1.19 (half stop) = f/1.67 = f/1.7 ....

1.4 * 1.25 (2/3 stop) = f/1.75 = f/1.8 .......

1.4 * 1.4 (1 stop) = f/1.96 = f/2

1.4 * 2 (2 stop) = f/2.8

Calculating in half stops goes like this :

1 --> 1.2 --> 1.4 --> 1.7 --> 2.0 --> 2.4 --> 2.8 --> 3.4 --> 4 --> 4.8 --> 5.6 ... etc etc ...

Just goes on and on and on

Those are just estimation, due to lots and lots of decimal places to get it correct .
Like I said, KM choose to put f/1.7 as 2/3 stops above f/1.4. There's no f/1.8 on KM cameras, even if you use 1/3 stops settings.

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Originally Posted by Ben1223
Thanks for all the info.
I used to own a 1.7 also.. holding one 1.4 is very different from a 1.7.. you can feel the quality there, it also has circular aperture blades.. plus it has an accessories hood, unlike a build in one for a 1.7. It funny that I didn't aware of the existence of build in hood till I about to sell it.

But can the differences justify for twice the price? Its up to individual.
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hehe... wrong calculation...

sorry... I just like the feel better on the f1.4 and the glass is bigger than the f1.7.

Anyway, and extra 1/2 stop is not too bad... handy when you need it... but I don't use widest aperture much...

You don't really need the 1.4 version. But if you have spare cash and want to spend it why not?

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How often do you guys use your 50mm prime?
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Old 9th January 2005   #19
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Anytime I go and shot street scene... say once a month...

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Originally Posted by Ben1223
How often do you guys use your 50mm prime?
Can't say for 7D yet (50mm x 1.5).. but on film 7.. quite often, especially for family outing.. bag got no room for more than 1 camera + 1 lens.
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