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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    any road bikers here ?
    yes, Kng from the CS underwater forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    what do most riders bring out during rides ?
    spare tubeS?pumps ?
    lastg nite was riding alone near the kaki bukit rehab centre and was thinking whether should bring along spare tubes and pump anot?
    Or am i being paranoid?
    It would not uncommon to find yourself and a big majority of cyclists not carryign all these stuff. For one thing, they think it is too much to carry around for a short "ride" around Singapore or some park area. This is Singapore...small island..what can happen? Well that is the mentality. I guess most of the time, that does have a ring of logic to it. Again I guess it really depending on you, where you ride and how you ride.

    Personally I use a compact backpack that also double as my main water carrier(camelback) although I still do have a water bottle on the bike frame. Water is something you should never compromise when you do long distance rides or even moderate ride in hot weather. Fluids gets sap from you very quickly in a ride by way of heavy sweating. One of the worst thing to suffer in a ride is getting leg cramps...which is due to lack of water too apart from lactic acid from over working your leg muscles. I ever had a cramp that was so bad that both my legs froze up. I almost fell from the bike as they just stop working while I was still riding. And since I was using clipless shoe, I had to struggle to get out of the clips. As I did not have enough water with me, the cramps took forever to recover. Everytime I rest up 5 min and get back on the bike ( barely) to cycle...about 1-2km later I have to stop again as the legs seize up. It took me about 1 hour to reach Changi Point. Big lesson learnt heh. In those days..no mobile phone somemore man and public phones were vandalised or non-existence in some roads. So water is the one thing you should alway have with you.

    Apart from that, I carry the following. It might not be everyone's idea of being prepared but well, it has worked for me all these years or have learnt the hard way.

    Bike Lamp(front of bike)
    Blinker (rear of bike)
    Tiny Bell or air-horn(if you want to give some folks a heart attack heh)
    Mini Hand held torch + Spare Batts
    Mobile phone
    1 spare inner tube for my wheels
    compact hi-powered air pump
    Tire repairing kit
    All in one allen key,screw,nut wrenching set
    Pen Knief

    I do carry the following, although most will call that being abit too much:

    Mini Wheel spoke tuner (if I am using my mavic wheelset) You might need it when hit by a bad crash and you know how to use it competently.

    Chain Link fixer (actually used it or lent it quite a few times when I ride)

    Cheap thin plastic raincoat (which doubles as a mat)

    Small to Large bandages,sanitised packs of water to clean wounds, cotton wool, medicated cream, iodine..etc. Enough for more then one treatment.

    Sunglasses

    Small towel

    Spare T-shirt

    Camera (if you are a shutterbird nut )

    Mini tripod ( if you are an even bigger shutterbird nut )

    1-2 Hi-Carb Energy Bars or similar.

    Anyway, it might seem alot but they all fit in my small bag pack quite nicely. And after sometime, you get use to the additional weight lah heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patch17
    nice looking Klein, sammy.

    here's my ride: bought frame 2nd hand then built. it's scratched, dented, has ugly rust spots here and there, but rock solid.
    Hey..is that's a interesting frame configuration. Looks familiar but I can't put a finger to it. But it does look solid enough. Well I look at dents and scratches this well... "War Scars". Any scratch or dents I got on any of my bikes I usually have a story of how I got it. heh. If anything, at least it shows you actually went out to ride and it is not a "show bike" you frame at home or bring to town to try to impress the girls heh.

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    heya sammy

    I like your wheels.. heh.. here are my 2 rides...




    the Klein suspension is to die for but for flat out riding on long trails .. teh schwinn is a little bigger and more stable if a tad less nimble...

    pity I havent been able to go out riding for awhile. got a slipped disc sometime last year.. sigh.. would be nice to go out and ride.

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    any recomendation for a 2k road bike ?
    although MTB are more versatile,but i find that i only ride on the road and has no interest to go chiong suah..
    i seen some road bike with the straight handle bars online leh...issit a mutant ?are they considered road bike as well?
    had my eyes on the scott speedster,wonder if there are better options for road riding..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragdolll
    heya sammy

    I like your wheels.. heh.. here are my 2 rides...




    the Klein suspension is to die for but for flat out riding on long trails .. teh schwinn is a little bigger and more stable if a tad less nimble...

    pity I havent been able to go out riding for awhile. got a slipped disc sometime last year.. sigh.. would be nice to go out and ride.
    MANTRA!!!!!


    OH GOSH.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragdolll
    heya sammy

    I like your wheels.. heh.. here are my 2 rides...

    the Klein suspension is to die for but for flat out riding on long trails .. teh schwinn is a little bigger and more stable if a tad less nimble...

    pity I havent been able to go out riding for awhile. got a slipped disc sometime last year.. sigh.. would be nice to go out and ride.
    Damn dude!...The second generation Klein Mantra I almost bought that one but it lost out to my F5 purchase instead heheh..I would have love that and it is one of the sweetest full suspension link. I tried one out and found it to be still very powerful with no bopping action that sap your power from the drive train.

    Your Schwinn is no slogger either man. Since its comeback back in the 90s where they started getting agressive with their line again, they have been going from strength to strength. But of course since my first Klein, I just can't see myself purchasing anything else lah heh....but that is a good second purchase man. Your Spinergy is the first generation without the spike sticks that fan out from the center of the hub towards the wheel? Or did you scrap them out?

    Very colour coordinated man. Sorry to hear about your slipdisc..bummer. YOu got to watch it too when you ride man. Are you using one of those saddle with the back portion cut off to let your tailbone get some relief from the bumping? I am using the Fizik from Giro that has that cut off for their racing line and it helped me quite abit heeh..especially when I have not ride in a long time...so getting back into the swing is alot more forgiving on my butt and tail bone hehe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    any recomendation for a 2k road bike ?
    although MTB are more versatile,but i find that i only ride on the road and has no interest to go chiong suah..
    i seen some road bike with the straight handle bars online leh...issit a mutant ?are they considered road bike as well?
    had my eyes on the scott speedster,wonder if there are better options for road riding..
    Well there are road bike and there are road bike bro. The main class would be the classic racer which you see in Le Tour de France where you have the lengendary Armstrong. Then there is the Cross Country which is a tougher version with more sturdy frame,rim and tire( some even have front suspension, there is the Triathron version and of course those super sexy( super expensive) ones that is rode in the velodrome ( indoor track). ANy one of them might have the long handle bar lah. It is really up to you to add that on if it helps you keep that aerodynamic shape to your ride. But usually you see those doing speed/time trials using them more then those on the road doing normal racing as those long bar is fst but does not make you nimble around route with a lot of twists and turns. That is why if you follow the Tour de France, the race are made up of normal race for disance and there is the time trial. The bikers will switch bikes depending on which type of race they do. For those straight bar? Well it is also about personal preferance.

    I use to be a roadie for alittle less then 10yrs before I decided that MTB is more my style. Problem with slick road bikes, you need to tune them (wheels)quite abit if you ride on roads. As the wheels are thin, bumping around can cause the wheel to go off center which can scrap the brake pads over time. That is why cycling with them, you avoid bumps and potholes like the plaque heh. So it is not alway true to say since you ride on road more that you should get a road bike. I am talking a true road bike racer now and not those hybrid gentleman bike with the slightly fatter tires and wider fork clearance and the raise and even straight handle bar type bike. You have to be careful on wet floor or slippery surfaces as the tire is so thin, they dont grip as well as even the slicks you ride on now or even the MTB knobbies. SOme better rubber syntectice compound MTB tires can be alot safer and grippier then you might think. Anyway, don't get into a bang up with anything with a road bike, usually your wheels get totalled alot easier then MTB for obvious reasons. Not saying a MTB will come out undamaged but well compare to a road bike but well the MTB is built for strenght and rugged use. The thin wheel is built for one thing and that is to save weight and built to deliver strength (in one direction) to propel you forward thus will not be good against sideway forces.

    But having said that, if you crave total aceleration and getting as much raw speed as you can from your body, nothing can give you that more then a road bike. If you are pretty fit and on a road like the Changi Coastal Road ..man..you can really fly. That's the only thing I miss about the road bike.

    You need to be abit more concern with the maintenance for a road bike compare to your tough MTB too.

    But hey, if you want to lose weight...why are you changing your knobbies to a slick...that is called resistance weight pedalling...that extra effort will help you burn your fats faster heheh....If I were you..I might have gone with semi-slick so I can still transfer from road to trail and back again.
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    wah sammy,thanks for ur advises..

    didn't know that roadbike are so fragile..maybe go test ride one someday to see if i really like it anot..
    as for my tyres,i never think about losing more fats leh...damn! wasted $70..
    anyway the uncle say the tyres are semi-slick one dual purpose..maxxis brand also..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    any recomendation for a 2k road bike ?
    although MTB are more versatile,but i find that i only ride on the road and has no interest to go chiong suah..
    i seen some road bike with the straight handle bars online leh...issit a mutant ?are they considered road bike as well?
    had my eyes on the scott speedster,wonder if there are better options for road riding..

    Let me give you one fair warning bro.

    Bicycle is as addictive and also as dangerous when you get into it. The BUY BUY BUY bug is just as powerful!. You only just started to cycle and getting to see if you like it...if you hate it later...I can tell you...second hand pricing is a bitch compared to cameras...unless your bike is really exotic. Don't expect to get a good enough price back on it if you want to give it up. Upgrades are not cheap just ike your camera lens heh. Imagine this, my Cook Bro crank set can buy one 18-70DX G zoom lens.And all it does is drive my bike chain around abeit it is pretty light but yet strong crank. Or you can have front shocks costing 4 figure..etc Get the picture?

    That is why I stop hanging around often at all those bike shops I get my upgraded parts..etc. I already have a wonderful rig. But if you keep hanging at those places instead of riding...you start to build this mentality your bike like your camera is never good enough ..and you start to upgrade to no end.

    Unlike your camera which you carry around...people might not know if you are that good a photographer or not as they dont get to see your photo album so you still can look like a real pro with your big lens walking around. But with a bike...heheh..you have to cycle around them. Don't end up being made fun by those who see you ride a nice rig or worst a pro level bike but can't handle it left alone ride fast on it. Maybe you will be a great rider...one day. But for now...just ride. It is good to learn about bikes and to see what are availble now and near future but keep to your game plan for now at least for a year before you make the change. That awesome bike you see in the show is just a machine. A machine in the wrong hand will just look good but not move you around faster then your legs can get you. I know it is very tempting heheh..but try to control yourself bro. Trust me. I have been there myself. Just ride for now.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    wah sammy,thanks for ur advises..

    didn't know that roadbike are so fragile..maybe go test ride one someday to see if i really like it anot..
    as for my tyres,i never think about losing more fats leh...damn! wasted $70..
    anyway the uncle say the tyres are semi-slick one dual purpose..maxxis brand also..

    No problem...

    No lah I would not immediately say a road bike is fragile. It is made of very strong stuff but in a limited fashion. It's built for one thing and that is speed and speed in one direction, forward. To keep the weight down, all the best strength point on a road bike is configured and designed to do just that...stiff where you need it to get you moving forward. But all other part of the bike that is not concern with forward motion, strength and stiffness are compromise. Which means all the sides of the bike. That is what a racer is built for. Those who buy one, knows what to expect or if have enough money will get the shop to tune the bike for them often when alignment is an issue after all the hard riding heheh..and of course they also will avoid all side impact situation, hard bumps and potholes of course.
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    wow... didn't know so many bikers in the cs forum!! hahaha... thoroughly enjoyed reading all the posts!!

    Kex, now that you've got yourself a bike, DO NOT leave it out of sight (eg. while shooting pix) unless securely locked in a reasonably high-traffic place. You'll be surprised how fast bikes can disappear.

    The scott speedster roadbikes are good value-for-money roadbikes -reasonably light with good components that you can grow into (instead of having to upgrade and waste more $$). The giant carbon composite with ultegra parts will be about $4k.

    Scott speedster S3 2005 with 105 groupset for about $1600 (street price).
    http://www.khcycle.com.sg/pdt_scott_...peedsters3.htm

    Another good shop to check out in the East is Cyclecraft (east coast/still rd junction). They are open on sunday.

    ENJOY!

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    last time i dun even bother to look at bike at all,didn't know they are so expensive!

    later must go get a good lock to secure my bike..
    will be riding to changi point after work tonite,hehe..
    anyone want to join me for kopi and tim sum there ?


    anyway,this is a pix of my mongoose taken by the previous owner



    Ride on !
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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    last time i dun even bother to look at bike at all,didn't know they are so expensive!

    later must go get a good lock to secure my bike..
    will be riding to changi point after work tonite,hehe..
    anyone want to join me for kopi and tim sum there ?


    anyway,this is a pix of my mongoose taken by the previous owner


    Ride on !
    Lock or no lock...in my case, my wifey bike is never more then 10 feet away from me. heheh. The record I know for stealing a part of a bike is 5 minutes I remember. A friend of mine lost his back wheel just with a quick trip to the toilet and he had his bike chained...unfortunately between the frame and a pipe.

    With your wheels and saddle post using quick-release, those are the parts that gets stolen the quickest. NOrmal folk will not steal them, the one wo actually steals parts off are those indian and thai worker who already steal bikes at MRT and neighourhood. Now if they need a part...they will be targetting bikes with quick releases...unless they have the time to steal more harder to access parts or take the whole bike. You notice how those manual or construction workers always have those bike in bad paint job condition or badly repainted with a brush and cheap paint..those are the way to hide the original bike colour from being noticed by owners if they are stolen from nearby places.

    Of course the same can be said of folks I know who use their bike to cycle and park at the MRT, They would buy second hand bikes in bad condition looking or they would make it so and then ride them. This ugliness discourage people from stealing them. How well that work I am not sure heh. But I know of an internet friend of mine (states side) who also owes a Klein. A Klein Adroit infact, he scrap off the paint job!!! keep the parts down to a minimum, use simple parts like Shimano early DX. He cycle around delivering stuff for a company, so he needs to chain the bike up when he enters a building...thus he rough up the bike quite abit in the looks department. heh. He never had his bike stolen after that...plus he still get a great ride with a good setup BUt I did tell him that even then, it might still get stolen in SIngapore LOL.

    Wah..now you cycling to Changi? eheh Take it easy bro before you find yourself becoming one single piece of painful meat! heheheh....Go by way of Loyang Ave..a fair bit hilly there that will give your legs and lungs a good workout

    BTW that bike looks pretty good. I think it is a good buy and will suit your needs for sure lah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    anyway,this is a pix of my mongoose taken by the previous owner

    Ride on !
    WAHHH... nice mtb! Looks like a good buy and in really good condition!

    Hmm.. butt ache huh? Hahah, common prob. Suggest you try padded shorts (tights). If you don't like the lycra look, you can wear your beach shorts over the padded shorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kng
    WAHHH... nice mtb! Looks like a good buy and in really good condition!

    Hmm.. butt ache huh? Hahah, common prob. Suggest you try padded shorts (tights). If you don't like the lycra look, you can wear your beach shorts over the padded shorts.
    dun like those riding tights leh..expensive somemore,rodalink selling $65 for one..wah piang..

    thinking of getting the gel padding for my seat,only $13+ nia..

    will be riding the changi prison route tonite if weather is good.

    anyone game for a ride tonite ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    dun like those riding tights leh..expensive somemore,rodalink selling $65 for one..wah piang..

    thinking of getting the gel padding for my seat,only $13+ nia..

    will be riding the changi prison route tonite if weather is good.

    anyone game for a ride tonite ?
    My two fave LBS in the east are Cyclecraft and Seng Chu Hin (Tampines). They have reasonably priced stuff - padded cycling tights for around $45. The gel seat cover is ok for shorter rides but on long rides, you'll find wearing padded shorts more comfy.

    Aiyar - cannot go changi lah - i live in the west! Hope the roads stay dry and have a safe and enjoyable ride! Dun forget the lights & helmet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    dun like those riding tights leh..expensive somemore,rodalink selling $65 for one..wah piang..

    thinking of getting the gel padding for my seat,only $13+ nia..

    will be riding the changi prison route tonite if weather is good.

    anyone game for a ride tonite ?

    I would love to join you but today im working, how about thursday nite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888
    Hey..is that's a interesting frame configuration. Looks familiar but I can't put a finger to it. But it does look solid enough. Well I look at dents and scratches this well... "War Scars". Any scratch or dents I got on any of my bikes I usually have a story of how I got it. heh. If anything, at least it shows you actually went out to ride and it is not a "show bike" you frame at home or bring to town to try to impress the girls heh.
    it's a "bow" bike by Corratec. probably going to be the last bike i'll ever buy. (can't believe i built the thing more than 6 years ago!) though i still have two other "classics".

    one is a Wild West (by Bridgestone), full Tange Prestige tubing, XT drive train (with thumb shifters), and beautiful Ritchey Logic componets all around. the other one is a '93 Specialized Stumpjumper Comp. Tange Prestige tubing, XT components all around, with Specialized inhouse rims and wheels. both bikes are fully rigid, ridden, raced and maintained.

    unfortunately the Stumpjumper has become a donor for components to do up my wife's Rockhopper, and the Wild West is now living with my road racer brother. (his bike is a Trek OCLV Lance Armstrong replica complete with Dura Ace components. the WHOLE bike weighs in at around 6.5 to 7 kg and it's not just a show bike, he's got a number of medals and trophies to back it up too.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    last time i dun even bother to look at bike at all,didn't know they are so expensive!

    later must go get a good lock to secure my bike..
    will be riding to changi point after work tonite,hehe..
    anyone want to join me for kopi and tim sum there ?


    anyway,this is a pix of my mongoose taken by the previous owner



    Ride on !
    nice set of wheels kex.

    bring along an extra inner tube, a patch kit, a set of tyre levers, a little minoura tool set, and a pump. i usually use elastic to secure the patch kit, levers and tool set to the rolled up inner tube then secure the whole thing under the saddle with a toe strap, or a velcro strap. (it's an old road biker trick from long, long ago.)

    riding around the island is fine with 1 water bottle you can get water practically everywhere. but if your'e going overseas, attach another bottle cage and bring two LARGE water bottles and/or carry a camelbak hydration pack. you can never have enough water. the camelbak can also hold some food, money, ID and a phone.
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