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    Hi fellow CSers! came across this video which show some behind the scenes on the making of LEE filter. So thought of sharing it with everyone. Can't imagine the effort put in to make a piece of filter. No wonder so expensive! (Video courtesy of Mike Browne)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacXzerO
    Hi fellow CSers! came across this video which show some behind the scenes on the making of LEE filter. So thought of sharing it with everyone. Can't imagine the effort put in to make a piece of filter. No wonder so expensive! (Video courtesy of Mike Browne)

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    Video Link: http://youtu.be/lMu_m203YaY
    May be it's just me but looks very sweat shop operation leh. No wonder Tianya cheaper. All the workers and paper clips are cheaper in China. In Singapore, we sure say very low productivity one.

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    Wow, very man power intensive. Wouldn't be too hard to automate the process to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    May be it's just me but looks very sweat shop operation leh. No wonder Tianya cheaper. All the workers and paper clips are cheaper in China. In Singapore, we sure say very low productivity one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evilmerlin View Post
    Wow, very man power intensive. Wouldn't be too hard to automate the process to be honest.
    Ya, seems labour intensive. Probably due to the complexity, process and QC to ensure the end product quality. No wonder Big Stopper always out of stock

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    dats also one reason why the stock level is very low.

    i even read that... sometimes if one batch of these filters failed their own QC checks, they will dump it and make a new batch!

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    I guessed...that's the price you pay for this kind quality assurance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacXzerO
    I guessed...that's the price you pay for this kind quality assurance...
    They just use paper clips, cling wrap, and some lady to dip dip agar agar... What quality? After watching this video, I won't buy Lee filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    They just use paper clips, cling wrap, and some lady to dip dip agar agar... What quality? After watching this video, I won't buy Lee filters.
    But whatever they are doing, it is one of the other filter that I know that gives good colour neutrality. The other being Singh Ray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai

    They just use paper clips, cling wrap, and some lady to dip dip agar agar... What quality? After watching this video, I won't buy Lee filters.
    then u are missing out alot.

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    Cottage industries like these are quite common in the UK, like in Hi-Fi too (LFD/Exposure amplifiers, Harbeth speakers ...). They are equiv of the SMEs here. The outfits are not like hi-tech fully-automated conveyer-belt kind of manufacturing. Most are run by sole proprietors who are highly experienced technical/engineering specialists who are passionate over the trade involved. View them as master craftsmen who are extremely proud of what they do. They are fastidious & their products are not the usual run of the mill type, serving a small niche market. Note also the long decades of experience of the staff in the processes shown here. Even in high tech set ups, Nikon included, there is a lot of manpower involved. You still need highly skilled people to operate the machines, assemble parts, calibrate components, to assure quality etc.

    To give an anology & idea why its popular, the best bak chor mee or char kway teow is the one you have to beat a long queue & 'wait long long' for the master chef to personally cook the noodles to perfection for you. The ingredients may appear basic/common but they are by choice, carefully, specially selected & the "recipe" is usually a secret. The coffee shop setting may not be attractive or classy but heck, to many the final product is all that matters - 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'. You can of course go for the mass produced packet of freeze dried noodles, which is good too, but its incomparable in quality or taste Having examined these filters, I am sold on the LEE filters, even though my pocket hurts

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    They just use paper clips, cling wrap, and some lady to dip dip agar agar... What quality? After watching this video, I won't buy Lee filters.
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    With software like Color Efex Pro 4, the market for physical filters may diminish. Could be a dying trade.
    The UV filters that users screw on in front of their lenses will still be needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    With software like Color Efex Pro 4, the market for physical filters may diminish. Could be a dying trade.
    The UV filters that users screw on in front of their lenses will still be needed.
    We are now in a digital image era, ND and/or GND filters should be easy replace by software or in camera setting in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverPine View Post
    We are now in a digital image era, ND and/or GND filters should be easy replace by software or in camera setting in the near future.
    I do hope that it will become true...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    With software like Color Efex Pro 4, the market for physical filters may diminish. Could be a dying trade.
    The UV filters that users screw on in front of their lenses will still be needed.
    You are quite right. The data can be manipulated in/out of camera via software esp for GNDs which moderate the exposure. The day will come when we all can save some money But I think polarisers & UV filters still serve their specific purposes & may not be substituted.

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    I think its not easy to manipulate the effect of a polariser accurately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverPine

    We are now in a digital image era, ND and/or GND filters should be easy replace by software or in camera setting in the near future.
    It's not so simple..l we are still limited by what our sensor can record...
    I used digital filters before I bought my first Hitech set. The result is very different. To get properly exposed foreground might completely wipe out the entire background, that's where physical filters save the day.
    Though, I still use digital filter these days for fine control such as apply less than one stop difference and longer soft gradual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowseye View Post
    It's not so simple..l we are still limited by what our sensor can record...
    I used digital filters before I bought my first Hitech set. The result is very different. To get properly exposed foreground might completely wipe out the entire background, that's where physical filters save the day.
    Though, I still use digital filter these days for fine control such as apply less than one stop difference and longer soft gradual.

    Nothing is impossible. Nobody think Kodak produce world first film camera in 1888, and in 1975 Eastern Kodak's engineer Steven Sasson using CCD sensor from Fairchild Semiconductor with 0.01mp and it took 23 seconds to capture world first digital image. Now is very common for hand phone have at lease 3mp camera. Technically it is not difficult to have a ND and/or GND filter build into a DSLR, since all image are created in digital signal. Currently our HP is faster and more powerful and have more memory then the Apollo 11's on board computer which send men to the moon and back to earth. Not too sure what is impossible.
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    Some video cameras already have in built ND filters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverPine View Post
    Nothing is impossible. Nobody think Kodak produce world first film camera in 1888, and in 1975 Eastern Kodak's engineer Steven Sasson using CCD sensor from Fairchild Semiconductor with 0.01mp and it took 23 seconds to capture world first digital image. Now is very common for hand phone have at lease 3mp camera. Technically it is not difficult to have a ND and/or GND filter build into a DSLR, since all image are created in digital signal. Currently our HP is faster and more powerful and have more memory then the Apollo 11's on board computer which send men to the moon and back to earth. Not too sure what is impossible.
    Unfortunately the camera makers seem to be more atuned to developing sensors that can shoot higher and higher ISOs instead of labouring on the dynamic range. There has been a huge leap in ISO capabilities from my last camera to the current setup. Dynamic range improvement is more iffy, I still have to rely heavily on my GND filter sets for landscape shooting.

    I do look forward to the day where the sensor captures a much wider latitude in a single shot, so that I can happily retire my GND filters for good. Multiexposure / HDRs are inelegant stop gap measures.

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