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    Wonder why Disney bet so much on a movie. Just because it is 3D does not mean it will succeed.
    The character/storyline is new. They should not have spent so much on an untested movie character.
    Disney admits John Carter is on course to lose $200m | Mail Online

    Nobody heard of this story character John Carter. It is not like, say...James Bond character that was wildly popular with the movie seeing public
    Special effects will not be able to support an uninteresting story line.

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    who is John Carter?

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    They pull too much on Visual effects. From the trailer i can see it so massive that it can par with Clash of the titans and avatar. They think too highly and depends more revenue on 3D Cinematic experience, which is untrue. I find 3D versions are a waste of details in the movie, people anticipate and wait for the "pop" moment and they tend to lose focus on the movie and the plot. The glasses are big and uncomfortable, the effect when there is no "pop" makes it even worst. i respect Christopher Nolan, not only he didn't shoot DKR in 3D, he explains why it isn't necessary to do it. I think it's worth reading for movie-goers

    Nolan: ‘Dark Knight Rises’ finds the future in IMAX, not 3-D | Hero Complex – movies, comics, fanboy fare – latimes.com
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    Too much 3D, is like overzealous photoshopping, is like overzealous makeup (think Ru Hua from Stephen Chow movies), is like spending $1000 on photoshop program and use it to destroy mediocre photos which otherwise would had been at least useable, is like spending 5 figures on cameras to shoot brick walls.
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    Marketing failed it. Should have kept the full title "John Carter of Mars" - more descriptive.
    Also should have pointed out it was based on the works of Burroughs who wrote Tarzan and inspired guys like George Lucas/Spielberg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cks2k2 View Post
    Marketing failed it. Should have kept the full title "John Carter of Mars" - more descriptive.
    Also should have pointed out it was based on the works of Burroughs who wrote Tarzan and inspired guys like George Lucas/Spielberg.
    not much marketing about it here anyway.

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    Every film maker hopes to achieve the roaring success of what Avatar 3D got. Unfortunately gratuitous assumptions by some of these filmmakers that 3D always equal more box office collections is not holding true. 3D should be seen as an additional dimension of entertainment rather than the entertainment itself ( that will have to be the storyline ? ).

    3D very likely will be the next evolution of viewing experience, but the technological need for goofy cumbersome glasses issint going to take over 2D anytime soon. Paucity of content aside, pricing of 3D movie tickets and 3D blu-rays are really not helping either, at least for me.

    Meanwhile Nolan decides not to collect 3D dollars for the upcoming DKR

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    who is John Carter?
    He's the twin brother of Conan living on Mars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantcanopy View Post
    3D very likely will be the next evolution of viewing experience, but the technological need for goofy cumbersome glasses issint going to take over 2D anytime soon. Paucity of content aside, pricing of 3D movie tickets and 3D blu-rays are really not helping either, at least for me.
    On the contrary, the 3D fad is not new. Gaining popularity every 3 decades (1950s, 1980s, 2010s...) before declining and repeating in a cyclical pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images
    On the contrary, the 3D fad is not new. Gaining popularity every 3 decades (1950s, 1980s, 2010s...) before declining and repeating in a cyclical pattern.
    Yea, still remembered seeing old anaglyphic videos n pictures back in school days.

    I believe 3d will go mainstream proper when the industry can agree upon a common technology that does away with funky clunky glasses. Meanwhile I see myself shelving my active shutter frames for quite a while more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images
    He's the twin brother of Conan living on Mars.
    Who is Conan?
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    Huh? I thought it failed because the female lead wasn't pretty......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudgecakes View Post
    Who is Conan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zichar

    You're not on team Coco?
    Sorry I very outdated haha xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowc
    Huh? I thought it failed because the female lead wasn't pretty......
    Which reminds me, why replace Megan fox with a girl that only knows how to scream in transformers 3? D: k side tracked haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudgecakes View Post
    Which reminds me, why replace Megan fox with a girl that only knows how to scream in transformers 3? D: k side tracked haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images
    Steven Spielberg, a Jewish, fired her hot ass after she compared Michael Bay to Adolf Hitler.
    Nice pun xP wow I guess they really are very sensitive about such things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudgecakes View Post
    Nice pun xP wow I guess they really are very sensitive about such things
    If you read a little about the background of Steven Spielberg, he was actually born into a orthodox Jewish family and faced some fair amount of embarrassment and religious discrimination from his gentile peers growing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images
    If you read a little about the background of Steven Spielberg, he was actually born into a orthodox Jewish family and faced some fair amount of embarrassment and religious discrimination from his gentile peers growing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cks2k2 View Post
    Marketing failed it. Should have kept the full title "John Carter of Mars" - more descriptive.
    Also should have pointed out it was based on the works of Burroughs who wrote Tarzan and inspired guys like George Lucas/Spielberg.
    Yes, it is basically a marketing failure. I knew nothing about the show when I went to see it. It is actually quite good. If it had been well marketed I would have gone to see it earlier.

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