Jacks

[waisj]

Hi,

After having a late night chat with a forum member, I've decided to re-visit the raw file. (you know who you are. thanks )

Comments and critiques please.

[lovells19]

wah lau.... think i have to get another strobe liao!! this is the best i can do

[Bluestrike]

Interesting prospective view of the school. Would have prefer to capture more of the fishes in it.

[beivied]

Originally Posted by Bluestrike Interesting prospective view of the school. Would have prefer to capture more of the fishes in it.

i think this is the school of jacks that stayed with them for at least five min, and jason only saw it at the end.... so maybe not so many shots, hahah.. is it this school, waisj?

lovells, i would think that if you had increased your shutter speed, at least you can get better stills =) but not as wide as his la.. not only you need a second strobe, you need to change your strobe arms... and upgrade your strobe to his, hahaha..

waisj, remembering you saying that it is always difficult to take pictures of such silvery fish without overexposing any part of it at all, but i think you have managed to do quite a good job this time round. any tips? =)

[kng]

Excellent shot!

Perhaps the only improvement possible wld be to light up the bottom half of the pix as well... the fishes in the bottom half look a bit "lost" in the darkness... Was the strobe pointing slightly upwards?

A bit of PSing may help tho...

[siaoon]

looking at both pics.. i think its difficult to take fish shots with a prosumer camera due the the fast movement... difficulty of focusing... am i rite? hmm.. curious, waisj r far were u from the subject? did u use auto focusing? or juz throw the focusing to infinity? care to share the exif and the distance? did u use any diffuser to blend out the strobe lighting to prevent bouncing of light from their bodies?

hmm lovells.. its will be an interesting shot if u able to keep it in focus.. maybe u can try panning next time? err.. c5050 can do panning anot ar? hate the focusing part of it leh..
so hard to use manual focusing.. :|

[lovells19]

Originally Posted by siaoon hmm lovells.. its will be an interesting shot if u able to keep it in focus.. maybe u can try panning next time? err.. c5050 can do panning anot ar? hate the focusing part of it leh.. so hard to use manual focusing.. :|

very hard to focus.. they swim very fast leh!

haha anyway with single strobe very hard to light up properly. i actually waht to just focus on one fish, then the rest abit blurrish to create that moving look haha guess i need more practice!

actually i should have shot ambient light.,. could be nicer

[waisj]

Originally Posted by beivied i think this is the school of jacks that stayed with them for at least five min, and jason only saw it at the end.... so maybe not so many shots, hahah.. is it this school, waisj? lovells, i would think that if you had increased your shutter speed, at least you can get better stills =) but not as wide as his la.. not only you need a second strobe, you need to change your strobe arms... and upgrade your strobe to his, hahaha.. waisj, remembering you saying that it is always difficult to take pictures of such silvery fish without overexposing any part of it at all, but i think you have managed to do quite a good job this time round. any tips? =)

Still rub it in....... sooo insensitive .. yes it is the huge school which kng took tonnes of footage with. I on the otehr hand, took the end of the illegal gathering. video evidence suggests that the school could be made up of thousands.

Lovells... Buy Buy Buy.. Get a DS125 ULCS arms and Ikelite housing. wide angle lenses too.....

Beivied, Yeah it is hard to take silvery fish, as it will tend to over expose the reflective side. What i normally do is to use FEC and underexpose flash by -1 stop, depending on what i'm trying to achieve , i'll either meter the background of the midtones of the frame.

[waisj]

Originally Posted by kng Excellent shot! Perhaps the only improvement possible wld be to light up the bottom half of the pix as well... the fishes in the bottom half look a bit "lost" in the darkness... Was the strobe pointing slightly upwards? A bit of PSing may help tho...

Hey k,

thanks for the comments, the strobes were lit straight on, but ther lower part of the school were further away from the top ones, thus giving the impression that the strobes pointing upwards.

The school was huge (as if you don't remember). Only managed to take a couple of shots as it was dispersing. The eveness of the lighting would have been helped by having a wider lense.....

[waisj]

Originally Posted by siaoon looking at both pics.. i think its difficult to take fish shots with a prosumer camera due the the fast movement... difficulty of focusing... am i rite? hmm.. curious, waisj r far were u from the subject? did u use auto focusing? or juz throw the focusing to infinity? care to share the exif and the distance? did u use any diffuser to blend out the strobe lighting to prevent bouncing of light from their bodies? hmm lovells.. its will be an interesting shot if u able to keep it in focus.. maybe u can try panning next time? err.. c5050 can do panning anot ar? hate the focusing part of it leh.. so hard to use manual focusing.. :|

Well the lag with focus lock would some times render a frame useless, but.... focusing was similar to all wide angle shots. (the inherent 5050 focusing speed)
I was a good meter and a half from them, almost at the edge of strobe coverage/lighting capability. I'm using autofocus, EXIF is F4.0 1/60. (it was getting dark) spot metering, ISO64. Strobe power was in TTL, with underexposure of -1 stop