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    Default UK reviews Speed Limits

    Just some news to share.. The British police's indiscrimate use of sneaky speed cameras and speed traps are attracting a national backlash from the British motoring community. They are now reviewing the speed limits of all roads to let everyone "comply with the law" instead of catching them.
    (The article is pasted at the end of this post. For those lazy to click)

    This means that most limits will be UP. In singapore, however, no chance..
    There has been many speculation that the year end bonus was from the extensive use of speed cameras to catch speeders, thus the fines that goes to pay all civil servants.

    Someone worked out that the minimum fine of $130 per motorist at 100 catches a day will work out to some 4.7million a year just on speeding tickets alone.

    I'm not a supporter for dangerous and reckless speeding but driving 50 along some roads like upper thomson road are just ridiculous.

    The article:

    Police chief calls for speed review
    14 December 2004
    ONE of Britain’s most senior police officers is demanding a ‘root-and-branch’ reform of every speed limit in the UK as part of a determined effort to stop drivers breaking the law.

    North Wales chief constable Richard Brunstrom, who is also head of road policing at the Association of Chief Police Officers, has warned that the current war of words over speed cameras is undermining the credibility of laws to make drivers slow down.

    In a wide-ranging call for all organisations involved in transport, including fleets, to encourage respect for the law, Brunstrom said: ‘We need a culture of voluntary compliance with the law, but now the vast majority of drivers feel it is right and appropriate to ignore speed limits.

    ‘What gives me the right to ignore the law? This whole issue is about the rule of law.

    ‘There is no excuse for breaking speed limits, but the solution is not ever-greater enforcement. We need a root- and-branch reform of every speed limit in the UK, because if it is the duty of every citizen to obey the law, then they have to respect it in the first place. It has to have credibility and we do not have that.’

    Brunstrom, speaking at the annual lunch of the Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM) in London, took some of the blame himself for the fact that the national debate about speeding was almost totally focused on the role of speed cameras, saying those involved had ‘got their fingers burnt’.

    Few people realise that speed limits are put in place for a number of reasons, not just safety, he said. There were three core reasons behind speed limits, covering safety, managing traffic flow and reducing noise pollution for nearby residents.

    Unfortunately, the debate had become mired in the safety arguments for speed cameras.

    But despite the ongoing rows about the issue of speeding, Brunstrom said he had no apologies to make about strict enforcement of speed limits. Brunstrom said: ‘This is not a game. It is about life and death. There is no such thing as an accident, because 95% of crashes are caused by human error. Driving to a higher standard has got to be a good aim because every fixed penalty ticket my officers issue is considered a failure.

    ‘We need to encourage better driving standards with the police saying that if you choose to break the law, you will have to mix it with my officers.’

    During his speech, Brunstrom welcomed the work of the IAM, saying it had a valuable role to play in driving up standards.

    John Maxwell, chairman of the IAM, warned guests that driver alienation was not in the interest of road safety.

    He said: ‘Car drivers and motorcyclists are not just part of the problem. They need to be part of the solution. Treat them fairly and get them on-side and there will be a rapid pay-back.’

    Their comments come as the fleet industry considers the impact of the Road Safety Bill, details of which were revealed last week (Fleet NewsNet, December 2).

    It included even stiffer penalties for drivers who significantly exceed the speed limit.
    Last edited by yanyewkay; 15th December 2004 at 11:13 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    Just some news to share.. The British police's indiscrimate use of sneaky speed cameras and speed traps are attracting a national backlash from the British motoring community.
    That's an interesting take on it. There are strict rules regarding the use of speed cameras in the UK. Fixed cameras must be clearly marked out and visible, usually painted either with flourescent yellow paint or that and diagonal red stripes. With regards to moveable speed cameras, I believe the regulations are that they can only be positioned in a given position once within a fixed period of time, I think 28 days.

    Frankly, IMO the whole problem is, as the article concludes, that the majority of the country has decided that it's okay to break speed limits. So it's speed, spot camera, slam on brakes, speed up again, spot camera, repeat ad nauseum.

    Personally, I think the police aren't being sneaky enough. I think catching more people bombing down the road is the best deterent. I know of course that speed cameras serve different purposes including reducing speed at accident prone areas or around schools and such - in which case fair play. But even traffic police on patrol on the motorways are very usually highly visible with the intention of deterring people from speeding. But with the current mentality, people just slam on the brakes, drive past, and speed up again.

    FWIW, the speed limits on motorways here, legally, are 110kmh on motorways and 100kmh on country roads, and about 50kmh in built up areas. (Approximately translated from miles - 70, 60 and 30mph respectively). Do 70 on a motorway here and the only thing you'll overtake are lorries - that are mechanically restricted/monitored to 60mph. Everybody else will be whizzing past you.


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