It just shows how much some people know about photographyOriginally Posted by rhino123
Just get any m43 camera. Even an old model if on offer. Most likely you will be happy with it.
If you really need the APS-C sensor consider Samsung also. But IMO m43 sensors are so good these days maybe can give APS-C a miss.
Samsung NX10+30mm, Fuji S6500FD
Nice thread... especially when I am swapping to mirrorless. I am not a professional, just a causal photographer. Love my D7000 but I find the setup was too heavy for a trip, also no one willing to share my carrying load. Therefore decided to sell my DSLR and since it was now sold, I am ready to get one mirrorless cam. Would be helpful if someone can provide more info.
If you have friends using DSLR and mirrorless, borrow and try them out. What do you find especially wrong with Sony?
The thread is a little outdated but still relevant. I will have an update ready by Sunday I think.
Samsung NX10+30mm, Fuji S6500FD
As to mirrorless camera, well... one of the main differences was that it didn't had a mirror and most of the AF system of the mirrorless camera was contrast detection. In the past, there is this saying that contrast detection AF is slower than the phase detection AF, now was no longer the case, contrast detection AF can be as fast if not faster than the phase detection AF.
Most major brand of cameras now have mirrorless interchangeable lens camera entries to their camera range - Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus, Panasonic and Samsung.
1) Nikon's mirrorless camera was the V1/J1 and had a small sensor that had x2.7 crop factor.
2) Sony mirrorless camera was the NEX series which had APS-C sensor (1.5x crop factor)
3) Pentax had 2 mirrorless camera entries - Q and K-01 (Pentax Q sport a very small sensor while the K-01 sport the same sensor as the famed K5 DSLR - 1.5x crop factor)
4) Olympus and Panasonic both shared the same m4/3 sensor (2x crop factor, they can share lenses because they are of the same mounting)
5) Samsung had a 1.5x crop factor APS-C sensor.
Hi Shahmatt, thanks for the link. It does help on widen my understanding on the format and sensors.
Hi Rhin0123, thanks for the info. I am hoping to gather more info regarding the model pro and cons, the lens availablity as well as the accessories. I know it hard to ask and helpful people like you cant answer without me naming any model.
Frankly, mirrorless cam is very new to me and I am still thinking which model to go with. I am just a causal photographer, most time taking street , family and sometimes some landscape photo.
Fuji x-Pro1 is closer to DSLR but high price tag and the limitation of the lens. I am thinking to get sometime that is more versatile (in term of cost and len availablity). My budget is not more than 2.5k. M3/4 looks good enough for me. I dont actually mind the 2x crop factor. I am looking at Olympus OM-D EM5 and I am still exploring other. Maybe some recommendation would be good.
Btw, how does the DOF works on the M3/4 as compare to DSLR since it is having a smaller lens? Correct me if I am wrong...
Last edited by Rc311; 15th June 2012 at 10:55 PM.
Panasonic leica 25/1.4 +EM5, wide open
Olympus 45/1.8mm + EPL1, wide open
Voigtlander 25/0.95 + EPL1, wide open.
The last lens is native m43 lens but it's manual focus only and difficult to focus because of shallow DOF at times. Certainly if DOF is still not shallow enough, m43 is not for you. Mirrorless APSC like Nex, Samsung, Ricoh GXR, Fuji Xpro1 etc... would be what you be looking at.
If you are keen on more m43 shots, do feel free to look at my flickr sets, or travel with pen thread for a feel of the IQ of Pen. Hope that helps.
As for the DOF, well... of course there is a difference between m4/3 and APS-C camera. but you must actually have knowledge of how DOF work to make the best of things.
U can consider Sony mirrorless SLR like A35, A57. They will be smaller and lighter and still a DSLR fundamentally.Originally Posted by Rc311
And dont use so many lens. Just use one zoom and one prime. And u are good to go. For causal photographers like us, we don't even need a prime. Just one travel zoom lens will do
IMHO, a nice mirror less sounds right. Depends not on sensor size but wallet size. Whatever floats your boat for the dollar!
Oh! Yes, my mistake. Confusion.Originally Posted by rhino123
Yes, A35, 57 and so on have a mirror.