Entry level is waste of money, sooner or later one will upgrade. That's what I did !! Sold my canon 600d within months of purchase.Originally Posted by Rashkae
So I suggested to try mid range. Just my thoughts
Pinholecam, Rhino123 had summarized very well the thoughts, I do feel the latest mirrorless cams are giving entry level DSLR a run for the $.
TS: You might want to check out this "old" thread by Adrewine, who uses Olympus DSLR (E620) initially and switched to mirrorless Pen E-PL1 (from page 7), all shot by kit lenses. E-PL1 is considered a light & cheap version which can be bought cheaper than some P&S. I also have an ongoing thread in my signature which is all shot with Olympus Pen and more recently OMD EM5, a pale comparison to Adrewine's. Hope that helps
Bokeh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Extract from wikipedia:
"The term comes from the Japanese word boke (暈け or ボケ), which means "blur" or "haze", or boke-aji (ボケ味), the "blur quality". "
My source? Endless discussions with Japanese photographers.
What's the crop sensor multiplier for 4/3 or mirror less cameras ?Originally Posted by wksoh
My Nikon d7000 is 1.5, so 50mm behaves like a 75mm
for NEX and NX, it's 1.5x because they use APS-C sensors like the one in your D7000, just that Nikon calls it DX. Pentax, Sony and Nikon all use this sensor.
Canon's is 1.6x for its lower to mid level bodies.
Nikon's ONE series has a crop factor of 2.7x
Pentax Q has a crop factor of 5.62x
Thanks and wow !!Originally Posted by kei1309
Dx format much better than 4/3 etc.
50mm on 4/3 = 100mm, then why buy these toys ?
And 4/3 or micro4/3 although had smaller sensor, the entire package is smaller, smaller body, smaller lenses, etc. Newer m4/3 sensor had very good noise control too.
Not pouring water onto APS-C sensor yet, but to make a sweeping statement that APS-C = better than 4/3 sensor... is well... not true.
there's a different camera for different users/uses
I don't know mate, just saying.. Relax and enjoy which ever format we have.Originally Posted by rhino123
That is interesting and informative, thanks !Originally Posted by wonglp
Hey elvire, I just got my Sony NEX-C3 last November and it's going really great for me. I was facing the exact same situation as you are now, the thing about having been using a P&S and wanting to upgrade, been doing hobby-photography, and not being able to "tahan" the heavy DSLRs. I went with Sony NEX amongst all the other mirrorless/micro four-thirds/DSLRs because
a) size and weight (I'm also small-built, and I think my fellow petite-sized friends who carry DSLRs around actually look silly)(And I have a thing for appearing proportionate)
b) When trying out all the different cameras in stores, the Sony NEX's interface really got me wanting it
c) Comes in pink! (Though this wouldn't be a consideration for you since you'd rather have that "pro" look, right?)
d) My top-2 choices were Olympus PEN and Sony NEX, and NEX is cheaper (Then again, I wasn't the one paying for my camera)
e) I have no qualms about mirrorless because when I was using my P&S intensively for 2 years, I'd rarely looked through the viewfinder
f) At my moment of purchase, NEX only had NEX-3, NEX-5, NEX-C3 and NEX-5N. C3 and 5N were really slightly improved versions of their older siblings 3 and 5, but I chose C3 over 5N because I thought the main differences (max video quality, touch screen capability, remote shutter capability) was dismissable (except for shutter speed >.<), so I decided to make do with the cheaper one (Also, 5N was a little heavier)
Half a year on and I'm still quite satisfied with my decision. (Other than when a friend got herself a Panasonic and I was jealous of the in-built digital on-screen level gauge.) You really need a lot of research to know what kind of camera will suit you best (functions-wise), and then your budget, and then the aesthetics. In that order. If you're still having many choices floating in your head, go to websites like Camera Comparison - Snapsort to compare pros and cons, before deducing the top 2 or 3 and going down to the stores to try them out
well, as much as i dunwan to take e words , tis fren of mine will just out of the blue msg me to get a dslr and sae hw gd the camera is/are. due to e big age diff, out of respect i dunwan to argue even i had explained my stand n showed the same article as u pasted here. Although I feel tt it is e gd intention of tis fren just tt e way of trying to 'psycho' me to get dslr make me feel like i m making a wrong decision to get a mirrorless. on e other hand, tis fren also will tell me dun bring camera oversea as will feel tt i will get rob =.= [sry just whinning about.. just somehow feel v weird when getting these kind of comments, like pysho me to get a dslr yet suggest nt to bring it out.. -.- ]
den sx20 gt hot shoe ma.. so i just put the flash [borrow fr e lecturer] n use it for studio shots..so it basically sum up my equipment range =x [ reflector, lightbox etc all borrow =x] Even thou sx20 is P&S, i encountered some budget freelance projects which e clients doesnt mind at all [ i would sae i m quite lucky for tt?] It hit me to upgrade again due to some assignment needed to print a0 size of images. n sx20 also cause me to look thr viewfinder n..gt v used to it nw =p
for the past 7 yrs, didn bother with lenses but after finding/reading abt them tt y wanted to upgrade again [sold sx20 for almost a yr, so nw v itchy to get a cam n take pics - which is oso a concern on myself tt i will get into a hasty decision so need non-bias stand of feedbacks to clear me ]
Based on my research olympus n panasonic hav wide m4/3 lens range [which i think shld b able to last me for quite long? thou i m nt v sure abt e pricing]
I myself dun look professional at all.. most pple tot i m sec sch kid -.-'' i m more concern of image quality than my own appearance
as mentioned by aiest (a) a male photographer fren of mine also mentioned abt looking proportionate tt when it hit me to think about it [ but e comfort level of carrying e cam ard is more of a concern coz i will also use it for travelling purpose.. like go climb up n down a hill in china or sth to take scenery pics]
haha aiest, i m actually nt a pink person so doesn really mind the color of the cam look pro or nt =p, me too have no qualms abt mirrorless [in fact i m waitin for the technology to reach tis kind of level]
sry for the long old ah ma post =x