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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    Hi guys ive never owned A DSLR before, but was thinking of learning more about it.
    Could anyone give me a brief explanation of the DSLR,
    the type of lens, flash, exposure, aperture, shutterspeed.
    Hope someone can give me some guidance for me to start out my journey of Photography.
    Thankyou!
    My suggestion is to pick up a good fundamental book from the NLB FOC.

    I could give a brief explanation of everything, but to give you everythign would take maybe 10 full posts. Not good for your eyesight, not good for my fingers, and it still may not be complete. WHy a good fundamental book is preferable is because it is designed to precisely provide this amount of information, it is catered to newcomers, whereas my view may be jaded/influenced by my preferences and views on photography.

    A good example is the DSLR Handbook by Michael Freeman. Good luck!
    Last edited by edutilos-; 14th March 2012 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinned79 View Post
    the most distinctive is the ISO...

    DSLR ISO is cleaner then compact cameras although nowadays these compact cameras are catching up.

    but if u compare a few years back... the ISO from entry level DSLR Canon 450D wins any compact cameras from that era hands down.
    Actually the high ISO on the Fuji X100 compact easily thrashes the D7000. You can do a comparison here:

    Fujifilm FinePix X100 In-Depth Review: Digital Photography Review

    Of course pretty much everything else on the D7000 (fast AF, negligible shutter lag, huge range of interchangeable lenses and accessories) thrashes the X100.
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    Default Re: Can any one gove me a brief explanation as to how a DSLR excells over a normal ca

    Quote Originally Posted by pbear1973 View Post
    Actually the high ISO on the Fuji X100 compact easily thrashes the D7000. You can do a comparison here:

    Fujifilm FinePix X100 In-Depth Review: Digital Photography Review

    Of course pretty much everything else on the D7000 (fast AF, negligible shutter lag, huge range of interchangeable lenses and accessories) thrashes the X100.
    read my second line and then third line again especially.

    the sensor for x100 is also different from those entry level compact cameras (which is even smaller then m4/3).

    since TS is comparing normal camera, i believe he is refering to entry level compact cameras.
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    Default Re: Can any one gove me a brief explanation as to how a DSLR excells over a normal ca

    Quote Originally Posted by pbear1973 View Post
    Actually the high ISO on the Fuji X100 compact easily thrashes the D7000. You can do a comparison here:

    Fujifilm FinePix X100 In-Depth Review: Digital Photography Review

    Of course pretty much everything else on the D7000 (fast AF, negligible shutter lag, huge range of interchangeable lenses and accessories) thrashes the X100.
    Not according to DXOMark.

    New test results from DxOMark: Fuji X100 vs. Nikon D7000, Samyang 85mm f/1.4 lens and more | Nikon Rumors

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    Ppl more willing to pose for dslr.

    Dslr helps with pickup lines.

    Got excuse to revisit countries for shoot.

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    Ok guys i get what you guys mean. i will look up the book that edutilos reccommended, i would also go down to Funnan to check it out this weekend.
    Any other DSLR u guys would reccommend for newbies like me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    Ok guys i get what you guys mean. i will look up the book that edutilos reccommended, i would also go down to Funnan to check it out this weekend.
    Any other DSLR u guys would reccommend for newbies like me?
    The Nikon D5100 is pretty good for beginners and has a useful info button that gives you detailed info of any function within the camera menu. Or you could go even cheaper and get the D3100 which has a guide mode for total beginners.

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    Default Re: Can any one gove me a brief explanation as to how a DSLR excells over a normal ca

    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    Ok guys i get what you guys mean. i will look up the book that edutilos reccommended, i would also go down to Funnan to check it out this weekend.
    Any other DSLR u guys would reccommend for newbies like me?
    just take a look at other brand also ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    Hi guys ive never owned A DSLR before, but was thinking of learning more about it.
    Could anyone give me a brief explanation of the DSLR,
    the type of lens, flash, exposure, aperture, shutterspeed.
    Hope someone can give me some guidance for me to start out my journey of Photography.
    Thankyou!
    many sticky threads in this forum. i think owning a DSLR makes u feel the pinch and make u work ur money better,
    D7000 + 50mm

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    LOL i suddenly got thins interest cause im going abroad to study soon and want to invest in a good camera so that i can bring back these memories back home to singapore for my family and friends to share. yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    LOL thought this was a newbie corner, was expecting some kinder comments haha.
    I mean ive looked up on google etc, but they dont give personal experience on these aspects.
    I was choosing between a Nikon D5100 SLR and a Canon 600D which i have read is good for starters?
    Could u guys give some openion on these 2?
    Hi, I think we will not win any more photography enthusiasts if we continue to use our egos and insist newbies do a search and analyse
    the unfamilar information and terminolgies encountered in photography.We can accuse laziness and even stupidity and expect that all
    persons are as intelligent as us.We are all human and we have been newbies so let's stop this herd instinct and give newbies a break. Sure there are bad apples but newbies in general are aware of the forum protocol of first helping themselves with the information available here and online.Let's sight precedents of university "fragging" of 1st. year freshies and the brutal indoctrination of
    commandos/elite soldiers that lead to fatal results during national service but sure this instance is not the same but the intent?

    Whether it is spoonfeeding or not who are we to judge? If don't like ,don't reply but because this action is condoned and practiced
    the situation has turned for the worst. Newbies when presented with expert information can't make sense of it because they have no
    reference point.Like this case because it's the first time and TS have not use DSLR or any camera before.Technology has made user
    idiot proof without need to understand basic understanding of the necessary steps of the process.That's why newbies need some
    explanation of the information presented to them.Just like a child need to propup to learn to walk.

    Firstly I state that I am not a Nikon or Canon user so the comments are unbiased and objective to the best of my knowledge.
    For the benefit,below are links to the info on these 2 popular entry level cameras depending on circumstances.

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon5100
    Canon Rebel T3i / EOS 600D Review: Digital Photography Review

    Engadget
    http://snapsort.com/compare/canon-good-vs-Nikon-D5100

    Canon EOS 600D (T3i) vs Nikon D5100 Review - YouTube
    http://cnet.com.au/canon-eos-600d-339308863

    Dear TS, the relevant info is presented before you.Decide what is the important features or capabilities that you need from these cameras for the kind of photography or video that you will be doing.For instance:

    Still photography for sports (fast moving subjects), both cameras have rather slow continuous frame rates of around 4FPS (frames per second) because of 16/18 MP but can be usable if lower resolution of picture quality is selected.Hopefully can freeze/capture action vis a vis shutter speed,F stop and ISO sensivity.

    viewfinder: not sure which one has brighter view because of magnification ratio by 10%. That is more of the actual sensor frame is seen through it.

    Autofocusing: canon 600D has in body focusing motor in this model ( rather than in lens which is more expensive) so can use most
    auto focusing lenses that canon made right back the the 70s subject to compatibility while D5100 has none or use in lens motor.

    auto focusing in video mode: Nikon D5100 has it but 600D does not because serious videographer prefer manual for focusing as oppose to auto because in low light auto forcus will "hunt" ( keep focusing in and out of focus which is distracting for video).
    Another thing is focus motor noise will be picked up by the microphone thus soundtrack is affected.

    wireless flash: canon 600d has it ( in conjunction with dedicated flash units) while nikon has IR (infra red) like tv remote so need line of sight to be accurate within a narrow angle of view to activate.Of course can use third party wireless trigger.

    LCD screen resolution: Canon has 1024K pixels vs nikon 920K pixels. Can be subjective.

    Lastly ergonomics,how it feels and handles in your hand.Not to forget pricing for your budget.I will not comment on sensor quality as
    it is technical but if used optimally both are capable of good photographic output when strengths and weaknesses are taken into
    consideration. Good luck and good hunting! PS it looks like nikon 5100 has more positives but then again select based on your need
    rather than what looks good on specifications.

    Personal tip: Study quality and properties of light and exposure,it will help immensely in getting good pictures still or video.
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    Default Re: Can any one gove me a brief explanation as to how a DSLR excells over a normal ca

    Quote Originally Posted by farbird View Post
    Ppl more willing to pose for dslr.

    Dslr helps with pickup lines.

    Got excuse to revisit countries for shoot.
    IN some types of photography, having a form like DSLR is a bane, not a blessing.

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    So what type of photography are DSLR best for.
    I know that there are portraits lansscapes macro?

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    Default Re: Can any one gove me a brief explanation as to how a DSLR excells over a normal ca

    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    So what type of photography are DSLR best for.
    I know that there are portraits lansscapes macro?
    very good question. You need to think about what photos you like to take first before buying it. I started with Macro, then slowly get poisoned into landscape and portrait then studio. Eventually you will need to spend a lot of more money on buying the equipments. I started with a Macro lens + D7000 which normal people wont do it this way, but at least I know what I enjoy most while using the camera.

    Some of my friends do not really have a strong interest into one of the photographies and they usually bought the dslr body + 18-200mm lens which allow them to take photos for general purpose.

    I also did not know much about the body when I bought it, but I think D7000 or 600D is quite a good body to start with. Even if you find it a waste of time later, it will be still relatively easy to sell it away I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    IN some types of photography, having a form like DSLR is a bane, not a blessing.
    yeah... like street photography... a smaller camera is better.

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    Does seem to be the case with the DPReview widget that lets you do side-by-side comparisons. The images from the X100 look better than the D7000 for comparable ISO.

    I use both the D7000 and X100 and from my experience this is also the case.
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    better lens and better sensor..... potential for better photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiee View Post
    LOL i suddenly got thins interest cause im going abroad to study soon and want to invest in a good camera so that i can bring back these memories back home to singapore for my family and friends to share. yup
    Buy your camera way ahead of time. There's a learning curve involved in getting the best out of a DSLR, so you need time. Also if your intention is simply to get a "better camera", you should consider other options like mirrorless like the truly awesome Panasonic GX1, or high performance compacts like the S100, X10 or G1X.

    A DSLR is nice and fancy but can also be heavy and bulky when you need to carry it around for long hours. I recently carried my D7000 with 18-200 lens for the Sentosa Flowers show, and the long barrel and weight was a hassle. Of course it got much better when I switched to the 35mm lens.

    The other practical aspect of a DSLR is that you would usually need a separate bag for it, which can be a real bother. On the other hand even a large-ish compact like the G1X would fit comfortably into a fanny-pack, which can then be put into your haversack.

    DSLRs also make you a more attractive target for muggings (experienced this in Antwerp). A smaller more discreet camera like an S100 (or my favorite X100 which looks like an old-fashion film camera) makes you stand out a lot less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbear1973 View Post
    Does seem to be the case with the DPReview widget that lets you do side-by-side comparisons. The images from the X100 look better than the D7000 for comparable ISO.

    I use both the D7000 and X100 and from my experience this is also the case.
    Question is, do you shoot RAW? I'm not trying to defend Nikon or anything, but high ISO performance has many factors. Detail retention, colour reproduction, amount of noise, type of noise are all factors to consider. Some types of noise are easier to correct than others. Just because one image seems to have less noise than the other, doesn't mean the camera that produced that image has the better high ISO performance.

    Ultimately, if you really want to get the best comparison, you should shoot RAW and then do your own noise reduction with PP software to the best of your ability for each image, then compare the images.

    Also, high ISO performance is also only one factor to consider, there are many other factors. Unless you constantly shoot at ISO 6400 and above, high ISO performance should not be the deciding factor when purchasing cameras.

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    Default Re: Can any one gove me a brief explanation as to how a DSLR excells over a normal ca

    Quote Originally Posted by pbear1973 View Post
    Does seem to be the case with the DPReview widget that lets you do side-by-side comparisons. The images from the X100 look better than the D7000 for comparable ISO.

    I use both the D7000 and X100 and from my experience this is also the case.
    Ok, but you should note that these things are subjective.

    Most review sites (I'm sure you can do a search) give the verdict that it's comparable, not a clearcut case of X100 performing better than the D7000 as you have stated earlier. In any case, it's up to you to say what you want to say, just adding on to point out that your opinion does differ from many other reviews. Cheers!

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