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    As long as it comes back the same condition i pass to him, else he don't need return back the current equipment. (he just have to find an exact same one or better condition)

    I have equipment which i don't mind borrowing, but i warn them the above phrase as i explain some of my equipment took me months to find them online. My ef 80-200mm f2.8l took me close to a year to see someone selling it at a decent price. (There isn't 1 except spare parts on ebay the last time i search it) My pentax asahi ghostless filter which might not worth more than 20usd took me more than a year before one appear on ebay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prajna View Post
    If your friend returns your camera in condition that u think is improper, how are u going to blame your friend and ask for replacement?

    A friend asked me to lend him my dslr cos he wanted to shoot airshow. I asked him why need dslr? He say shoots nicer picture *facepalm*. The more i dont want to lend him. My all rounder lens is also L lens... My god... Feel like knocking his head with my 70-200... I really got speechless over his phone call, lol
    Do a demo and point out where are some of the cosmatic and function issue you have on the equipment before handling to them. Expect no more than those issue you show when taking back the equipment. Warn and warn them about taking care of your equipment. Being friends, you lend them your equipment in the trust that you believe that they will take good care of it. So you shouldn't be a pushover when it returns back damaged, if you find them being pricky or whiny, you have the right to show anger (in speech).

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    Like many members already said,

    Just say "No", it is so simple and effective.


    IF they still asking again,

    just ask them; "Which part of No you don't understand?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prajna View Post
    Ever have ignorant friends who overrate a dslr and want to borrow it from you? How do you turn them down nicely? Ask them pay camera rental rate, lol... Those people ah...
    friends see you as camera rental, you see them as rental customers, or friends?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prajna View Post
    Ever have ignorant friends who overrate a dslr and want to borrow it from you? How do you turn them down nicely? Ask them pay camera rental rate, lol... Those people ah...
    Buy insurance for camera and lend.

    So you won't lose your friends or your equipment.

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    Remember Lao Tzu says:

    "A good friend never says NO."

    But Lao Tzu don't own no camera.

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    You READ this article it teaches you how to SAY NO effectively and righteously without guilt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prajna
    Ever have ignorant friends who overrate a dslr and want to borrow it from you? How do you turn them down nicely? Ask them pay camera rental rate, lol... Those people ah...
    I'm sure alot of ppl already advised u not to lend.

    My advice is to think about your equipment. How much are you prepared in case of damage or lost.

    When u lend something to someone, always be mentally prepared for the worst situation. If you are not mentally prepared for the worst, don't lend.

    Lend or not, it's a personal choice. Many ppl say don't lend, but there are ppl who are willing to lend. Why? Coz those ppl willing to lend, they are always mentally prepared for the worst situation

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    Actually I also feel that it's kinda awkward to say no to friends who want to lend my camera, especially if they are my close friends.

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    i used this line once it worked like a dream

    "No sorry, nothing personal, but I dont lend my camera equiptment to ANYBODY .... if there is ANYTHING ELSE that I have that you would like to borrow its NOT a problem ...... eg cash, my car , my mother-in-law , my family jewels, my condo BBQ pit, my country club swimming pool , Esprit discount card etc etc etc "
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights
    Like many members already said,

    Just say "No", it is so simple and effective.

    IF they still asking again,

    just ask them; "Which part of No you don't understand?"
    Haha, i know but its kinda rude considering they ask me nicely. Easier to say no to drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119
    i used this line once it worked like a dream

    "No sorry, nothing personal, but I dont lend my camera equiptment to ANYBODY .... if there is ANYTHING ELSE that I have that you would like to borrow its NOT a problem ...... eg cash, my car , my mother-in-law , my family jewels, my condo BBQ pit, my country club swimming pool , Esprit discount card etc etc etc "
    This is the answer im looking for, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wootsk
    As long as it comes back the same condition i pass to him, else he don't need return back the current equipment. (he just have to find an exact same one or better condition)

    I have equipment which i don't mind borrowing, but i warn them the above phrase as i explain some of my equipment took me months to find them online. My ef 80-200mm f2.8l took me close to a year to see someone selling it at a decent price. (There isn't 1 except spare parts on ebay the last time i search it) My pentax asahi ghostless filter which might not worth more than 20usd took me more than a year before one appear on ebay!
    Now that reminds me, my friend wanted to borrow my dslr for airshow, then i think of my own setup, 17 40 and 70 200, leaving primes at home. If i lend him my dslr, what lens should i lend him? He only have the word dslr in his head...

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    Some of the English here is mixed up and misused.

    borrow

    lend

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex
    Some of the English here is mixed up and misused.

    borrow

    lend
    Serious? O.O all along i thought borrow is when someone is getting something. Lend is when someone is giving something. Im not the best at english, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Some of the English here is mixed up and misused.

    borrow

    lend

    Also: unreturn, "true" frens, not nice, half No half Yes, real No, polite unrefusal etc. etc.

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    simply put. if your friend decides to sever ties with you over a camera which you wouldn't lend, it speaks about how much that friend values you and your friendship

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    simply put. if your friend decides to sever ties with you over a camera which you wouldn't lend, it speaks about how much that friend values you and your friendship
    May I remind everyone what Lao Zhi who never owns a camera says:

    "Camera can buy but friendship cannot."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309
    simply put. if your friend decides to sever ties with you over a camera which you wouldn't lend, it speaks about how much that friend values you and your friendship
    Good point. I have the right to reject them and they can have immature thinking to "sever ties" with us. Its my gear that i researched, saved up for, walked all over shops to find it, took care of. Camera over friends? They should have that question in their head too.

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