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    Welcome to cs.

    Suggestion, read your manual, go youtube search for exposure, aperture and iso. after that take out and shoot and learn from mistake.
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    Just go out and take some photos and experience first hand on the operation of your camera. Start with Auto first, work yourself up to Aperture priority/ Shutter speed priority then manual. Get to know your camera inside out, use kit lenses first until you really find the lenses limiting you before considering an upgrade to other lenses... and don't just listen to anyone telling you to get other lenses at this point of time because you might not be ready for it.

    And... yeah... read up on Aperture, ISO, Shutter Speed, etc and their inter-relationship with one another. Then read up on composition and stuff like that.

    Finally... have fun... and don't stress too much.

    Oh... and join some outing here... there are plenty of friendly people around that can give you advices when you shoot. It is faster to learn that way
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    Why you start from D90 instead of D3100 or D5100 ?
    It is quite a complex cam when you play with the settings when shooting, excluding shooter that set everything to "AUTO" mode.

    If you select D90 yourself, then you should start shooting and compare the photos with different settings and read the manual on purpose of each setting.NO SHORT CUT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikF601 View Post
    Why you start from D90 instead of D3100 or D5100 ?
    It is quite a complex cam when you play with the settings when shooting, excluding shooter that set everything to "AUTO" mode.

    If you select D90 yourself, then you should start shooting and compare the photos with different settings and read the manual on purpose of each setting.NO SHORT CUT.
    Not sure why you think a newbie cannot start with D90 instead of D3100 or D5100. Don't all these cameras have Programmed Auto as well as full Auto modes?
    Sure there are more buttons, but those can simply be ignored until user gains sufficient comfort level to start using them
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra

    Not sure why you think a newbie cannot start with D90 instead of D3100 or D5100. Don't all these cameras have Programmed Auto as well as full Auto modes?
    Sure there are more buttons, but those can simply be ignored until user gains sufficient comfort level to start using them
    When a newbie start fm D90, there should be some reason or opinion or idea behind. So we can provide some better direction to reduce his/her learning curve. (note : I know of a lady fm hong kong who start fm d700 + 24-70mm, just because she want to learn good photography tech with best gear she can afford. I am not surprise for this newbie who start fm d90.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikF601 View Post
    When a newbie start fm D90, there should be some reason or opinion or idea behind. So we can provide some better direction to reduce his/her learning curve. (note : I know of a lady fm hong kong who start fm d700 + 24-70mm, just because she want to learn good photography tech with best gear she can afford. I am not surprise for this newbie who start fm d90.)
    A lot of people have their own unique reasons for starting photography with a particular model of camera. The D700 + 24-70 newbie combo is actually not so rare Have encountered 3 so far.

    Anyway TS already bought the D90, so hopefully he uses it well
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    hello!!!

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    hi sry to hijack abit,

    i am also newbie here

    but i using 18-135 kit lens its kind of like heavy to do street photography
    should i get a 50mm lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123 View Post
    hi sry to hijack abit,

    i am also newbie here

    but i using 18-135 kit lens its kind of like heavy to do street photography
    should i get a 50mm lens?
    Its up to personal preference actually. By using the 50mm, you would have to zoom using your legs. Of course, if your main aim is have the lightest load possible, then the 50mm would be a good choice.

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    Thanks everyone for the advices!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spree86 View Post
    Its up to personal preference actually. By using the 50mm, you would have to zoom using your legs. Of course, if your main aim is have the lightest load possible, then the 50mm would be a good choice.
    thanks,

    i read abt the 50mm lens, it has the "bokeh" effect, why would 1 want to make the object focused and the background is blury ?
    then you would not know where have u taken the picture right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikF601 View Post
    When a newbie start fm D90, there should be some reason or opinion or idea behind. So we can provide some better direction to reduce his/her learning curve. (note : I know of a lady fm hong kong who start fm d700 + 24-70mm, just because she want to learn good photography tech with best gear she can afford. I am not surprise for this newbie who start fm d90.)
    well.. everybody buy certain brands or camera for a reason of their own. If he/she is willing to purchase and has the budget. Why not? There is no strict rules or what not that says everybody should start from an entry camera. No doubt the many functions and buttons might confuse at the start but 1 can just ignore them and slowly pick up.. at least maybe getting a D700 straight..probably meant no need to upgrade if she has to get the.. entry or pro consumer kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123 View Post
    thanks,

    i read abt the 50mm lens, it has the "bokeh" effect, why would 1 want to make the object focused and the background is blury ?
    then you would not know where have u taken the picture right?
    Just for your info...you need to read up more on the basics..how to do a shot with Bokeh like you mention is not hard..and you dont need a new 50mm lens to do it.. your kit lens can do the job too. Since you had a 18-135..try turning it to 50mm and shoot from there..dont get a 50mm lens only to find out its too tight for your liking. How to know your taken picture right? you can review your shot after hitting the shutter...again...go read on the basics for exposure..

    on a side note..the 18-135mm lens is already consider a light lens..IMO. If it really troubles you..maybe from the start you should have gotten a compact or mirrorless..if weight is a concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123

    thanks,

    i read abt the 50mm lens, it has the "bokeh" effect, why would 1 want to make the object focused and the background is blury ?
    then you would not know where have u taken the picture right?
    Sometimes you don't need to know where you took the shot. DSLRs are not solely for travel photography. Blurring the background removes background clutter and blurred lights can also add a pleasing effect to your photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123 View Post
    thanks,

    i read abt the 50mm lens, it has the "bokeh" effect, why would 1 want to make the object focused and the background is blury ?
    then you would not know where have u taken the picture right?
    Some people like their photo that way.. the blurred or fade out background can be beautiful too in some cases and it makes your subject stands out more in the photo.. Infact..many newbie buy DSLR because they love these bokeh thing so much.. Some even got "cheated" into buying 1.. without any knowledge of how. lol.
    Last edited by TWmilkteaTW; 28th January 2012 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123

    thanks,

    i read abt the 50mm lens, it has the "bokeh" effect, why would 1 want to make the object focused and the background is blury ?
    then you would not know where have u taken the picture right?
    It's depth of field or DOF not bokeh. All lenses have DOF.

    All lenses have bokeh. It's a different animal.
    Last edited by qystan; 28th January 2012 at 04:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qystan View Post
    It's depth of field or DOF not bokeh. All lenses have DOF.

    All lenses have bokeh. It's a different animal.
    ya its something to do with the "f" on the lens right
    lower "f" more expensive -.-
    and more blur

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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123 View Post
    ya its something to do with the "f" on the lens right
    lower "f" more expensive -.-
    and more blur
    Distance to subject, and subject distance to background, matters too. Your 135mm might even do a faaaar better job than a 50mm lens. The aperture of the lens will affect the DOF. You also will rarely shoot wide open at f/1.4, etc.

    You really need to read up on the basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voice123

    ya its something to do with the "f" on the lens right
    lower "f" more expensive -.-
    and more blur
    You're keeping things at a superficial level, eventually it'll cost you money to find out.

    What you described is related to DOF not bokeh.

    Bokeh has almost nothing to do with f-stops. Bokeh is how the out of focus image look like.

    Example, the star is a bright dot in the sky. When it is out of focus, the dot becomes bigger turning into a round disc, bigger as it gets more out of focus.

    A good bokeh gives you a round disc of even brightness, dimmer but even all over the disc.

    The reality is most lenses produce discs that are not round; hexagon, heptagon, oval are some shapes. This is usually caused by the aperture design, 6 blades, 7 blades, curved to try to make it round. If 6 or 7 sided shapes can be round, we won't be calling them hexagons or heptagons.

    The brightness tend to uneven, usually it forms a ring like your circular fluorescent light, bright ring with dark center. This has to do with the physics of how light interacts when it passes thru the lens.

    All the above can be minimized thru design and of course money.

    Here's a 2000 blade aperture lens, its is way better than a 7 blade, money please.

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