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Old 24th November 2004   #1
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Default Pixma Printers : Do the prints still fade easily?

Considering getting the latest pixma printers, but my experience tells me that Canon prints usually fade after a few weeks, when exposed to the air. Do the latest pixma printers still have this problem?
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Old 24th November 2004   #2
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ya...i got the same problems too with my S600...like to know the answer too..
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Old 24th November 2004   #3
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My guess is that it's better now; if you take a look at the Canon website, for the i560, it says "Colours last up to 25 years when printed on Canon Photo Paper Pro". On the other hand, for the Pixma line of printers, it says "Archival quality of 100 years when printed on Canon Photo Paper Pro (PR-101)".

Anyone using a Pixma printer care to comment?
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Old 24th November 2004   #4
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It is still using the same ink...
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Old 25th November 2004   #5
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Perhaps they tweaked the ink formulation? One thing's for sure... they changed the paper coating... that's why now it's 100 years archival... no reputable brand would risk claiming something it can't do...
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Archival lifespan is based on proper storage and is based on accelerated light fade tests.

The more common cause is gas-fading due to atmospheric contaminents and neither epson nor canon nor HP dye-based ink are immune to it. I'll be surprised if they can last 6mths unframed let alone 100years.

All are susceptible, just a matter of which ink+paper combo is more susceptible.
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Old 25th November 2004   #7
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So far got about 10 over prints frm my i560.

No sweat, no fading. Still so bright and vibrant.
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Old 25th November 2004   #8
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Plan to get this during sitex. Price seems okay to me at $289 only concern about the ink cost. Any exisiting user out there?


does anyone knows if the ink will cost a bomb and if it will run out fast, esp printing A4 at max resolution dpi.

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Old 25th November 2004   #9
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Originally Posted by jsbn
So far got about 10 over prints frm my i560.

No sweat, no fading. Still so bright and vibrant.
How did you store those prints? In an album?
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Old 25th November 2004   #10
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Well, I din store them in an album. Juz pinned it up in a normal air-conditioned room.
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Ink for Canon is no doubt one of the cheapest u can find.

Think Tank system, u can replace juz 1 cartridge if the colour for the particular cartridge runs out at juz abt $15 to $16 per colour.

Anyway, I do photo prints occasionally (not on A4 of cos, I oso dunno wad to print on A4. Maybe next time my gf or my wife's photo) on my i560. So far it has been like 6mths no ink change.
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Old 25th November 2004   #12
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According to what I read; the fastest way to test is hang the print-out on the wall unprotected in a normal unair-con living room.
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Originally Posted by jsbn
Ink for Canon is no doubt one of the cheapest u can find.

Think Tank system, u can replace juz 1 cartridge if the colour for the particular cartridge runs out at juz abt $15 to $16 per colour.

Anyway, I do photo prints occasionally (not on A4 of cos, I oso dunno wad to print on A4. Maybe next time my gf or my wife's photo) on my i560. So far it has been like 6mths no ink change.
Epson printers also have this feature liaoz.
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Its always the inkhead on Epson that puts me off it
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ya.. who has ever hung a picture for 100 years to test it's fade-proofness?
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Originally Posted by jsbn
Its always the inkhead on Epson that puts me off it

care to share the difference in teh inkhead?? might be getting a printer soon.....
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Originally Posted by Chlee
care to share the difference in teh inkhead?? might be getting a printer soon.....
Read that the epson printheads get clogged easily.
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Originally Posted by imaginary_number
Read that the epson printheads get clogged easily.

OIC......
think i read before that HP print head is on the cartridge itself.. so you get a new print head everytime you change cartridge... that explains why HP cartridge is rather expensive??

Canon and Epson has a permanent print head in the printer itself??
Anyone can clarify?? thanks.
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Originally Posted by imaginary_number
Read that the epson printheads get clogged easily.
actually it applys to all brands of printhead, im using canon printer and the printhead get clogged up as well recently. But can be unclogged one, i haven not been using my printer for six month than i did a nozzle check and found that several lines are missing. lucky use to work in this field before so apply some method to unclogged it and do a nozzle check again and it works.

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Originally Posted by Tweety
actually it applys to all brands of printhead, im using canon printer and the printhead get clogged up as well recently. But can be unclogged one, i haven not been using my printer for six month than i did a nozzle check and found that several lines are missing. lucky use to work in this field before so apply some method to unclogged it and do a nozzle check again and it works.

Cheers
Six months is indeed a long time, I guess the clogging was pretty much expected. I think the main issue which deters ppl from going for epson is that it's more prone to clogging, considering the resin in the pigment ink, although personally, I'm rather underwhelmed by Canon's print longevity. Need to verify if they've worked that out.
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