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    i hope people will show more common sense, sensitivity and responsibility when posting pictures. there was someone who posted a picture of a floating body in a pond in Sungei Buloh a while ago.

    i hope whoever the poster is, he has provided the proper authorities with information.

    a big thank you for the quick thinking mods for removing that thread. i didn't really expect to see that at all, and i'm sure i'm not the only one. watching and reading about gruesome news on tv and newspapers is one thing, but certainly not here, which is more of a recreational forum??

    Rest in peace, for the deceased in the picture.
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    nope, don't think i wanna see it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereobox
    i hope people will show more common sense, sensitivity and responsibility when posting pictures. there was someone who posted a picture of a floating body in a pond in Sungei Buloh a while ago.

    i hope whoever the poster is, he has provided the proper authorities with information.

    a big thank you for the quick thinking mods for removing that thread. i didn't really expect to see that at all, and i'm sure i'm not the only one. watching and reading about gruesome news on tv and newspapers is one thing, but certainly not here, which is more of a recreational forum??

    Rest in peace, for the deceased in the picture.
    I agree wholehartedly.
    The only thing I could think of was, " hope no one related gets to see this !"
    It was a most thoughtless post. I was impressed at how fast the mod's found it and removed it
    Time, is an effortless construction :)

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    I thought that what the sub forum is about

    Reportage and Sports
    Photojournalistic, Reportage, Events Coverage, Sports Illustrated.

    Wish I saw it man, what a waste.

    A/M is my own view.

    Hi Moderator, if the photo in question is not under the cat. of reportage, than pls list down the guide lines. Thanks.
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    We see dead bodies on news and the papers so I don't see any problem with pics like that showing up here. Look up the net, they're everywhere. What I would have liked those who post them to do is to at least have some warning in the titles. Then at the very least, people are given a choice.

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    not being a prick or anything, but here, look. there are pornography and crack sites everywhere on the internet, but we don't see them appearing here, do we? it's not a matter of whether how easy you can have access to them, but rather, it all boils down to common sense. newspapers and tv news have a job to do, that is to report the news. what is the purpose of posting such a picture here? to show off?

    anyway, the mods have already removed the thread in question, so more or less we know where they stand on this issue. let's just wait for an official word from them and clarify it once and for all.

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    Default Stereobox

    Hi man,
    I wouldn't bother. There are those that do and those that don't really have any feelings for others than themselves.
    Why don't we simply end this thread with the fact that we hope unfortunate person rest in peace and with respect.
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    So just because the photo appeared here and not the newspaper diminished it from being a piece of report? Do you see porno in local newspaper?

    The moderators might have taken it out because they've decided that this would be the direction where CS is heading and I understand that. That doesn't necesary means posting of that picture here is wrong. Could have gone either ways.

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    and if posting images of the deceased is seen as being disrespectful to them, then all PJs who've done it are guilty as charged. Why should being in the profession or not make any difference?

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    you still don't get it do you? it's all about context. end of story.

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    I didn't see it myself so perhaps you might have something to add on to tell us why that image was out of context. Mind you , context is highly subjective stuff. As far as I'm concerned, it was posted in PJ and that covers death. You (or even the moderators) think its out of context and inappropriate but that doesn't necessary spell truth for others.

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    if you have seen the pic and post, you would have a hard time determining just how much reportage value it has. that is what i mean by context. like i said, let common sense rule.

    i will end my posts here until some fresh arguments crop up. thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereobox
    if you have seen the pic and post, you would have a hard time determining just how much reportage value it has. that is what i mean by context. like i said, let common sense rule.

    i will end my posts here until some fresh arguments crop up. thank you.
    Again, this is your own judgement and your words against others and I take it that you can't really prove your case cept the fact that the moderators removed it.

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    I'll relate a personal experience of mine...

    Just a few years back, an Indonesian friend of mine was on an assignment reporting "racial differences" in his country. Situation got out of hand and one fine afternoon, I found myself receiving images from him. Yah, you've guessed it, dead bodies. I probably had the same reaction with some people here. Nobody should be exposed to such gory details I yelled in my mail back to him. However, what seem to be a mindless act have etched a lasting mark on my mind. Instead of saying "Nobody should be exposed to such gory details", now I say "Nobody should be exposed to that kind of violence." Nothing made me remember like those images. Right, not all people can take those but that doesn't mean showing them is wrong. Sometimes, you've got to look beyond what's presented in front of you.
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    Hmm...
    Don't think the example you have given is a very appropriate example.
    You mentioned, that it was for an assignment for reporting. That's very different from coming across a coincidental dead body. The photographer certainly wasn't expecting to be looking for dead bodies when he was out shooting. So as Stereobox asked,"What's the reportage value?"
    The hidden fatal dangers of Sungei Buloh?
    The prevalence of murder in Singapore?
    The biological profiling of dead bodies?

    Photojournalism is more about just snapping events as they happen. If you fail to put a message across through your photos, then what reportage value does it other than just a picture with a subject in it? Agreed that sometimes, you've got to look beyond what's presented in front of you. But if it's drawing interpretation from the viewer, what's the reporting value of your picture. Photojournalism is partly about drawing opinions and situational awareness, and not only drawing interpretations. If it's interpretation you are looking for, abstract photography will better suited at attaining that effect wouldn't it?

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    Posting a picture of a dead person isn't wrong by the way, it's inappropriate. The moderators have to consider the age range of people coming to this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prismatic
    Hmm...
    Don't think the example you have given is a very appropriate example.
    You mentioned, that it was for an assignment for reporting. That's very different from coming across a coincidental dead body. The photographer certainly wasn't expecting to be looking for dead bodies when he was out shooting. So as Stereobox asked,"What's the reportage value?"
    The hidden fatal dangers of Sungei Buloh?
    The prevalence of murder in Singapore?
    The biological profiling of dead bodies?

    Photojournalism is more about just snapping events as they happen. If you fail to put a message across through your photos, then what reportage value does it other than just a picture with a subject in it? Agreed that sometimes, you've got to look beyond what's presented in front of you. But if it's drawing interpretation from the viewer, what's the reporting value of your picture. Photojournalism is partly about drawing opinions and situational awareness, and not only drawing interpretations. If it's interpretation you are looking for, abstract photography will better suited at attaining that effect wouldn't it?
    Tried "A life has ended"? Somebody passed on and was found, that's the situation.

    Who decides authoritatively what's the reportage value? Given the same set of images I was presented, its way too easy to be overcomed by the gore and just place it behind. The viewers will have to decide what they can get out of it. Ever seen an image that others can talk for hours but it just didn't click with you? The photgrapher took the images with an story to tell but he can't control how others feel for his images. Is he wrong? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prismatic
    Posting a picture of a dead person isn't wrong by the way, it's inappropriate. The moderators have to consider the age range of people coming to this forum.
    I know, that's why I said it was an understandable action. Same reason why we still edit photos but we don't really hate those which didn't make the cut do we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prismatic
    Hmm...
    Don't think the example you have given is a very appropriate example.
    You mentioned, that it was for an assignment for reporting. That's very different from coming across a coincidental dead body. The photographer certainly wasn't expecting to be looking for dead bodies
    I don't think my friend could guarantee that he will have some really gory images to shoot that day either........

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    We have removed the thread and link in question as the post was not in any way "reportage" or "PJ" related but more to incite some kind of shocked reaction.

    Needless to say, while the picture is not necessarily graphic nor gory, its not something that we want to see in a forum where we cannot determine the maturity/age of the person viewing the pictures.

    We hope that members understand our stance in removing questionable posts/threads/images - its nothing personal.

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