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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Don't bluff yourself.
    Most of us take photos that are lousily taken, have absolutely no value to anyone else and of events that are not once in lifetime or earthshaking.
    The camera is important. The photos are not.


    (EDIT - this is to tell you that occasions like the one below is a one in a million chance which normal people in everyday life is unlikely to come across)
    You are not Nick Ut who was in the right place and the right time and (maybe) risked his life to take this important photo to tell the whole world of US violations against villagers and civilians in Vietnam War.

    BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Picture power: Vietnam napalm attack

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    Default Re: Q:Is your camera more important or the photo more important ?

    i think NO one know Where is the right place & whenis the right time to take the "important" photo .......



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    Quote Originally Posted by tungtong View Post
    O...this is the reply from my friend from Malaysia.......some time ago....

    If U like to learn from TT..........
    Tungtong will ask you 3 questions.

    1. If you need to lie down on the muddy floor would you do it?
    2. Is your camera more important or the photo more important?
    3. If offered food from your subjects, would you eat it?

    ....your answers are "yes" and no "buts"

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>from MAXBY Photomalaysia...
    1. depends on whether i need to stay clean for the rest of the day before i can change up and if the photo is worth the trouble and cannot be taken without not lying down.

    2, depends on how u phrase it
    - in terms of worth and ownership, photo is always more important as that is the outcome.
    - in terms of what u can afford to lose, 1 photo or 1 camera - of cos, photo. camera still can shoot many more photos. that is unless the photo cost and can sell more than the camera.

    3. mostly yes, but no duckling in the egg kind of stuff.

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    Default Re: Q:Is your camera more important or the photo more important ?

    Quote Originally Posted by zoossh View Post
    1. depends on whether i need to stay clean for the rest of the day before i can change up and if the photo is worth the trouble and cannot be taken without not lying down.

    2, depends on how u phrase it
    - in terms of worth and ownership, photo is always more important as that is the outcome.
    - in terms of what u can afford to lose, 1 photo or 1 camera - of cos, photo. camera still can shoot many more photos. that is unless the photo cost and can sell more than the camera.

    3. mostly yes, but no duckling in the egg kind of stuff.
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    it depend on the "value" of the photo. Most (or probably all) of the time (for me) the value of the camera is still higher than that of the photo.

    if you are saying taking photo in a wet or harsh environment, I will still attempt to do it with the necessary protection for the camera. Sometimes, an umbrella might do.
    Last edited by coolthought; 4th December 2011 at 08:49 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tungtong View Post
    i think NO one know Where is the right place & whenis the right time to take the "important" photo .......



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    Quote Originally Posted by coolthought View Post
    you just have to be ready for it loh.... you won't know till it "unfold" before you.... having a bit of intuition might help....
    this is why having that olympus tough series pns looks attractive to me
    sorry ! what is "olympus tough series pns" ? ? ?

    thanks !

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    Default Re: Q:Is your camera more important or the photo more important ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tungtong View Post
    sorry ! what is "olympus tough series pns" ? ? ?

    thanks !

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    I believe he's referring to: OLYMPUS TOUGH series | Compact Digital Cameras | Olympus Imaging Singapore

    Waterproof, Shockproof, Freezeproof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tungtong View Post
    sorry ! what is "olympus tough series pns" ? ? ?

    thanks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike View Post
    I believe he's referring to: OLYMPUS TOUGH series | Compact Digital Cameras | Olympus Imaging Singapore

    Waterproof, Shockproof, Freezeproof.

    *I don't have an answer to your original question.. I find it too tough to answer..*
    thanks for explaining

    with a camera like this, I can shoot in, on and under the sea, in the mud, in the snow, off riding bicycle..... etc... with little worry I can't shoot with it again.... so that I can just focus on getting the shot.
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    Wiping mud off my D700 and 24-70 now. Also just washed my camera bag with pressure spray to get rid of all the mud. Jeans and shoes also muddy.

    Another year or two later, the D700 will be outdated and sold off at an expected depreciation.

    The photos it made would still generate interest, income, sales and marketing opportunities for the photographer for several more years, maybe infinite. For the private client, it could mean generations of record and fond memories of love and family, for the commercial client, it could mean better brand identity, exposure and profits.

    For the people who baby their cameras in a bed of soft feathers, they sell off their mint-condition camera years later and get back some money. Maybe they made some photos. They upgrade their camera and the process repeats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjackal View Post
    Wiping mud off my D700 and 24-70 now. Also just washed my camera bag with pressure spray to get rid of all the mud. Jeans and shoes also muddy.

    Another year or two later, the D700 will be outdated and sold off at an expected depreciation.

    The photos it made would still generate interest, income, sales and marketing opportunities for the photographer for several more years, maybe infinite. For the private client, it could mean generations of record and fond memories of love and family, for the commercial client, it could mean better brand identity, exposure and profits.

    For the people who baby their cameras in a bed of soft feathers, they sell off their mint-condition camera years later and get back some money. Maybe they made some photos. They upgrade their camera and the process repeats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike View Post
    I believe he's referring to: OLYMPUS TOUGH series | Compact Digital Cameras | Olympus Imaging Singapore

    Waterproof, Shockproof, Freezeproof.

    *I don't have an answer to your original question.. I find it too tough to answer..*
    thanks !
    tough for me to answer too......


    thanks for all the reply ! ! !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjackal View Post
    Wiping mud off my D700 and 24-70 now. Also just washed my camera bag with pressure spray to get rid of all the mud. Jeans and shoes also muddy.

    Another year or two later, the D700 will be outdated and sold off at an expected depreciation.

    The photos it made would still generate interest, income, sales and marketing opportunities for the photographer for several more years, maybe infinite. For the private client, it could mean generations of record and fond memories of love and family, for the commercial client, it could mean better brand identity, exposure and profits.

    For the people who baby their cameras in a bed of soft feathers, they sell off their mint-condition camera years later and get back some money. Maybe they made some photos. They upgrade their camera and the process repeats.



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    Photo taken is important, camera is not
    Photo not taken, camera is important

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    Default Re: Q:Is your camera more important or the photo more important ?

    i once read from the internet this:

    Writer: Wow... Bruce your photograph is brilliant, what camera did you use?
    Photographer: Thanks James, likewise your novel is fantastic, what typewriter did you use?

    comparing camera to photo, i felt IMHO the photo is the important one, the camera is just a tool to produce a result i.e. photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvs90 View Post
    i once read from the internet this:

    Writer: Wow... Bruce your photograph is brilliant, what camera did you use?
    Photographer: Thanks James, likewise your novel is fantastic, what typewriter did you use?

    comparing camera to photo, i felt IMHO the photo is the important one, the camera is just a tool to produce a result i.e. photo
    like this >>>>

    what typewriter did you use ?


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    I think the photographer is the most important the camera cannot operate on its own. And you can't take photo without a camera. So in conclusion, photographer > camera > photo
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    Camera not important.
    Photo even more not important!
    Know how to feel more important!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by small pig View Post
    ex camera doesnt mean rich... likewise man who ride bicycle doesnt mean he is poor
    I did not imply that you are rich...But to be able to afford a D700, you are not likely to be poor either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonrya View Post
    Balut is delicious!!!
    OMG, YOU TRIED BALUT?!?!?!
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