12th November 2004, 10:25 AM
12th November 2004, 10:31 AM
get a d70 with the kit lens ($1700), and maybe a 90mm tamron di macro lens($595)...
perhaps a sigma 70-300 ($330)......with a sb600 flash ($340) with memory card still less than 3k.....
good enuff for wat u want to use it for.....not sure about prices...but should be close la...
juz my suggestion...its not foolproof..
12th November 2004, 10:32 AM
a. You may want to put Minolta's 7D into consideration.
Originally Posted by NicoYap
b. Taking pictures of cars, outing, secenery, model plane, model cars .... etc do not require a Micro / Marco lens (there are difference between a micro and a marco lens .... for one the spelling is different)
c. The zoom lens 18-70 included in Nikon D70 is excellent enough, additional zoom lens not required, but you might want to invest in a good prime lens for your model plane, model cars, as a prime lens can focus nearer then Zoom lens.
What else do you need?
13th November 2004, 09:42 AM
Thanks, for your advise. I go and look at Minolta's 7D. It look not that bad, but wondering how much will it cost? In Australia is selling at Aus$2399, just for the body. It also seem like not much lens to choose at the moment. Thinking to get a better lens in the future.
Last edited by NicoYap; 13th November 2004 at 09:56 AM.
13th November 2004, 09:46 AM
go for the D70 or 300D. with the recent price cuts, they offer the best value for money among the DSLRs and are more than enough for the subjects that you want to take.
13th November 2004, 10:21 AM
$4k budget is not enough for 20D.
also set aside $500 for your camera accessories, unless you want to buy the cam for display purposes only.
13th November 2004, 10:25 AM
from your description of intended usage, I would advise you to go with D70 or 300D.
But let's say you have a bigger option other then DSLR, a normal compact prosumer range cam is enough for you and it is portable and light.
13th November 2004, 10:30 AM
You need a D70. With the price reduction you can get most of the things you needed and still have spare to eat lunch and take a Taxi back home. Most importantly you will be able to take great photos after that.
13th November 2004, 08:21 PM
So if I buy 70D kit, which other lens will be good for outdoot shooting and nighttime. Like Christmas Dec on shopping centre, etc... Get 70D and was thinking to get SB-600 SPEEDLIGHT. Is SB-600 and SB-800 any much diff?
13th November 2004, 08:37 PM
13th November 2004, 08:41 PM
Hi, I'm newbie to dSLR so please don't mind my ignorance... The kit for d70 is the 18-70mm lens right? So does it mean it is around 4x optical zoom in layman term? Also.. may I know how many times is the zoom the body itself has?
Also, if I'm going to buy D70 (i'm saving up for a dslr like the topic starter here), what lens should I buy? I see so many XX-XXmm lens and I'm puzzled.. how do I read what each lens do? Please guide me ...
Last edited by epia; 13th November 2004 at 08:54 PM.
13th November 2004, 10:19 PM
maybe these should help you out...
a "normal" range lens will be
a) 50mm f/1.8
b) 50mm f/1.4
whereby 50mm is considered a normal lens, not too long nor short, not a wide angle neither a zoom.. simply called a normal lens...
any focal length below 50mm.. will be considered a wide angle or the fish eye.
Nikon has several wide angles... ranging from 12mm to 35mm...
telezooms will be ranging from 100mm to 600mm~
13th November 2004, 10:23 PM
U didn't take the crop factor into account?
14th November 2004, 12:04 AM
wide angle??? during my dad's time 35mm and 28mm was wide...
from the looks of it...12mm is wide now.... on digital tt is//
14th November 2004, 12:18 AM
Hmm.. so am I right if I say 18-70 has a range of wide to tele providing zoom effect?
14th November 2004, 12:18 AM
we muz understand he is a noob... if we tell him so mani things where can he absorb ? slowly.. take things one at a time....
Originally Posted by AReality
he cannot run when he is juz learning to crawl...
let them grasp the basics to equipment theory followed by some hands on practical lessons and then the advanced equipment theories.. haha.. isnt it better ?
he can absorb faster like this....
crop factor comes in later when he knows the difference between Primes, WAs, FEs, and 2 different teles and the Super teles.... hahaha
14th November 2004, 12:23 AM
yes u can... 18 will provide u with wides angles and 70mm will provide u a short zoom if u require...
Originally Posted by epia
therefore in short.. the 18-70mm DX lens will cover ur basic needs of photography, when u require a "higher" level of lens u might want to consider different lens for different occasions like 50mm f/1.8 for low light, 17-55mm for general street photography, 70-200mm f/2.8 VR for sports or action, and 600mm f/4 for wildlife photography...
if Nikon's lens are too expensive to invest, u might wish to consider third party lenses such as Sigma, Tokina, and Tamron.
however i personally felt that Sigma lenses have that certain punch to their lenses though... nt only they look good, they feel rather better then the others as they do not have the "plasticty" feeling as compared to the others...
14th November 2004, 12:29 AM
20D is the camera for you. It's the best mid-range DSLR on the market today.
D70 and 300D are low-range DSLR. Although both are good, more than adequate for you to produce excellent images, their body are made from plastic.
20D has more solid feel, magnesium alloy body, and the focusing is the fastest at this moment. It has the lowest noise, even compared to 300D and its big brother, 1DMII.
14th November 2004, 01:23 AM
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14th November 2004, 02:08 AM
However, on the practical side of things, none of these attributes will cater to his needs any more than a D70 or 300D. The noise level on a D70 or 300D is not much of an issue, until you start nitpicking.
Originally Posted by scott
I'd put the 300D below the D70, and place the 20D and 7D in another category. After the price drop of the D70, the 20D is definetly not in the same market share. What's the difference in price now? $1k? Spend the money on some good optics for the D70 instead to complement the 18-70 kit lens, which is already very good.