9th November 2004, 03:24 PM
9th November 2004, 03:30 PM
join more outings and use wat u have???
cheers and let me be the first to welcome u to CS...
9th November 2004, 03:35 PM
9th November 2004, 03:45 PM
9th November 2004, 03:54 PM
yup....no need to pasieh...PnS helps u learn composition better....i used to use one too lo haha..
9th November 2004, 04:04 PM
9th November 2004, 04:05 PM
My advice to all newbies to photography is that don't burn your money to getting an SLR yet, especially if you have a limited budget. Don't waste your money.
If you have a budget of 2K max, I would suggest you go for a prosumer camera first, which normally cost around $1500-$1700. A prosumer is a camera which is:
- Having a fixed zoom lens, often with optical and digital zoom.
- Having a standard 'fire and forget' function, like basic portrait, landscape, night shots, etc
- Having a set of creative functions to squeeze out those creative juices of yours, such as Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, and Manual settings
- Having a full functionality of a DSLR camera, except for shutter lag and interchangeability of lenses.
Shutter lag, FYI, is the time difference when your press the shutter button and the shutter actually opens.
Other than that, it's a DSLR! You can start playing with this for a long while, before you really decide what you want in photography. If you're those really 'siao on' type like me, then go for a DSLR later with bigger budget. If you decide later that you're only casual snappers and occassionally want some creativity, then you'll be staying put I'm sure. You don't have to feel shy carrying a P&S or prosumer. Those who looked down on you probably don't understand photography. I've seen very good photographers using a prosumer camera and still achieve excellent results.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by Virgo; 9th November 2004 at 11:22 PM.
9th November 2004, 05:28 PM
I am facing the same probelm.. been getting different advices from my friends... decided on getting a low end prosumer first. looking at the lumix fz20 ....
9th November 2004, 05:38 PM
No matter how careful u plan and research for it, u would still end up with the wrong equipment sometimes. So, (a) just whack and buy whatever u like, use it, if dont like, sell it quickly at a discount price, then go and buy another equipment, repeat (a).
Anyway, welcome to this forum, hope one day u will get promoted from New Member to Member.....
10th November 2004, 12:38 AM
10th November 2004, 12:39 AM
follow ya heart la...sometimes digital is not the way to go all ... film rules ahha......
10th November 2004, 12:44 AM
cant see the photo... ICT hmm... wow should be interesting.
Originally Posted by engr
10th November 2004, 01:35 AM
10th November 2004, 01:46 AM
From a digital newbie who made his most memorable shots with a prosumer...
It's not always the equipment, eventhough advanced and better specified equipment helps get the shot.
But if you allow technology to become your master, instead of a tool, what have you achieved?
Having a budget of 2K and being to afford abrand new Nikon D70 does not necessarily put one in a position to better understand pphotography.
However, if getting a fast prosumer oR a lowered price D70 gives you the results you want...why not?
But..but, but, exactly what do you understand of what you want...or REALLY NEED? Not that I am putting you down; heck!, even I do not know what I truly want after all this time.
What I do know is that as much as as I adore LEICA, Zenzanon and ZEISS lenses, I have seen stellar rsults from Zuikos, Nikkors, Canons and Takumars, and I'm not necessarily refering to premium lenses. And I am always forced to try and get by with what I have, even if I often long for better. That is, afterall, the curse of the less affluent.
You are, at a beautiful phase of discovering photography, yet it is also an angonising one because you are discovering that equipment plays a relative, and therefore important part of the results you hope to achieve.
Which brings me to the next question: What EXACTLY is it that you would really like to achieve after spending 2K on equipment? Would 2K suffice, or do you need to spend say 3 or 4 or 5 or even 8-12K as many here have done?
There is a saying (at least where some are concerned), "Is enough is really (n)ever enough"?
Take a step back. Wait for prices to drop even more...explore the 2nd hand route, but if I may offer, never consider a purchase without knowing full well what or how that piece of equipment can do for the technical quality of your photography.
Then ask yourself again, what is it that you really hope to achieve...aesthetically?
10th November 2004, 09:47 AM
10th November 2004, 09:50 AM
If anybody regrets buying a DSLR, can give it to me, I help you all settle it
10th November 2004, 09:55 AM
10th November 2004, 09:58 AM
If you want a SLR ... get a film body with a cheap 50mm prime.
10th November 2004, 10:04 AM
$2k not enough for DSLR
U need at lest $4k for an adequate setup.
Save up more 1st. use your old camera.
If U buy another prosumer camera, U'll be wasting most of your savings, & the DSLR u eyeing is getting futher & further.
However if U really want to get a DSLR now, get the D70, or the canon 300D. cheap. But U sure to upgrade soon.
10th November 2004, 10:07 AM
Can leh.. D70 can... heehee.
Originally Posted by AReality