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Old 6th November 2004   #1
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Default how make background blurry like dslr

hai guys. i'm new fz20 owner, how shoot picture with background looks blur, like dslr do? thx
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Originally Posted by dwisetyo
hai guys. i'm new fz20 owner, how shoot picture with background looks blur, like dslr do? thx
Ensure the biggest aperture size (F2.8) and max Zoom (12X). To do so, you need to set to Aperture priority and maintain f2.8 stop
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Originally Posted by dwisetyo
hai guys. i'm new fz20 owner, how shoot picture with background looks blur, like dslr do? thx

you can never shoot a picture that has a blured background as blur as DSLR's do. the best u can get is 12X...F2.8 and place the subject at minimum focus distance.
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Old 6th November 2004   #4
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use photoshop! :P
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Originally Posted by SpitFir3
you can never shoot a picture that has a blured background as blur as DSLR's do. the best u can get is 12X...F2.8 and place the subject at minimum focus distance.
What about trying it with a ND filter? Does it help?
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Originally Posted by JimDavis
What about trying it with a ND filter? Does it help?
Yes, sometimes it does help when the environment is too bright to use f2.8 and min shutter speed hit (1/2000 s)
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Originally Posted by JimDavis
What about trying it with a ND filter? Does it help?

no it doesnt unless u want it to help achieve f2.8 that is..
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thanks don, but sometimes jitter occur, do i use tripod or coz my false position when took picture ?, sorry i'm begginer and fully thanks of your tips
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Originally Posted by SpitFir3
no it doesnt unless u want it to help achieve f2.8 that is..
Ohhhh....ok...I will try some test shots tomorrow if it is not going to rain...with F2.8.....blur background....
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Originally Posted by dwisetyo
thanks don, but sometimes jitter occur, do i use tripod or coz my false position when took picture ?, sorry i'm begginer and fully thanks of your tips
no problem. for beginner, any shutter speed above 1/125s with full optical zoom can shoot without tripod. of course, it's good to use tripod and a remote shutter release.
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Originally Posted by donkuok
Ensure the biggest aperture size (F2.8) and max Zoom (12X). To do so, you need to set to Aperture priority and maintain f2.8 stop
Hiee....

Just note that the f2.8 here is not the same as the f2.8 you have on the 35mm slr world where imager (sensor/film) is larger in area ......physically.

This notation of f2.8 may just be a notation to tell you the size of the aperture in relation to the light falling into the imager for a defined exposure value...the depth of field ....is therefore totally different....between the two system - its has its own maths ......

The f2.8 that you have on your FZ20 has a deeper depth-of-field....

So to get a blur background......ensure your distance to subject A is shorter than the subject to background B...... A<B....(better if the minimum focus distance is short)...

Try it...

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nothing beats photoshop...on the note that you are good at it and you have time to edit every photo.
or you can try filters...
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Originally Posted by kentaroC
nothing beats photoshop...on the note that you are good at it and you have time to edit every photo.
or you can try filters...

hey not true ...bluring in ps will not be as nice as the true lens bokeh.
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F2.8 itself won't give you blur background. You must use zoom to get blur background. The near the subject and the more the zoom with F2.8, the more blur background you get.

On my FZ20, I sometimes use F5.2 with zoom and still get blur background.
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Originally Posted by sulhan
Hiee....

Just note that the f2.8 here is not the same as the f2.8 you have on the 35mm slr world where imager (sensor/film) is larger in area ......physically.

This notation of f2.8 may just be a notation to tell you the size of the aperture in relation to the light falling into the imager for a defined exposure value...the depth of field ....is therefore totally different....between the two system - its has its own maths ......

The f2.8 that you have on your FZ20 has a deeper depth-of-field....

So to get a blur background......ensure your distance to subject A is shorter than the subject to background B...... A<B....(better if the minimum focus distance is short)...

Try it...

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from wat i know f2.8 has a shallow depth of field not deeper. To increase the blur effect, you can use close-up +2 filter.
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Just shot a sample


F Number : 2.80
Exposure Program : Normal Program
ISO Speed : 200
Metering Mode : Multi Segment
Flash : Flash was not fired
Focal Length : 18.2 mm
Shutter Speed : 1/4
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thanks again don, I really glad for your tips, now i can't try your tips, one more question don, is it matter shoot picture through evf with right eyes than left, Is it caused jitter problem ? ( really beginner in photography)
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Originally Posted by dwisetyo
thanks again don, I really glad for your tips, now i can't try your tips, one more question don, is it matter shoot picture through evf with right eyes than left, Is it caused jitter problem ? ( really beginner in photography)
to me doesnt matter, so long you feel comfortable. but based on the manual, they recommend to close your right eye.
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Originally Posted by donkuok
F Number : 2.80
Exposure Program : Normal Program
ISO Speed : 200
Metering Mode : Multi Segment
Flash : Flash was not fired
Focal Length : 18.2 mm
Shutter Speed : 1/4
Hi

Care to explain how you actually know the focal length?

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Hi

Care to explain how you actually know the focal length?

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Right click any original pictures > Properties > Summary > Advanced

Another blur background image , edited in PS also.


Peace!!

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