DIY Omni Bounce for IR Flash

[Square Moon]

Would someone care to share how to DIY or convert the omni bounce for the Flash (SB 800) for IR flash lighting. Or are there better method instead of using a omni bounce?

[Nisa]

try Deadpixel
I took one of his DIY!

[Square Moon]

Originally Posted by Nisa try Deadpixel I took one of his DIY!

If you don't mind to share Deadpixel DIY, thanks

[Nisa]

Originally Posted by Square Moon If you don't mind to share Deadpixel DIY, thanks

no sharing of MY DIY!

[teerex]

Originally Posted by Nisa try Deadpixel I took one of his DIY!

Originally Posted by Nisa no sharing of MY DIY!

First you mention that you took one of Deadpixel's DIY. Then you mention "no sharing of MY DIY".

So is it yours or Deadpixel's? I do not think it is ethical to take someone's and call it MINE. Give credit to whom it is due.

Please be reminded that this is a sharing community here. All those who have really shared have stuck together for more than 2 years and have become bosom friends.

I do not know what you are trying to proof in your 2 posts. But if you do not wish to share or shed some light on the Thread Starter's query, please do not go offside.

[Nisa]

Originally Posted by teerex First you mention that you took one of Deadpixel's DIY. Then you mention "no sharing of MY DIY". So is it yours or Deadpixel's? I do not think it is ethical to take someone's and call it MINE. Give credit to whom it is due. Please be reminded that this is a sharing community here. All those who have really shared have stuck together for more than 2 years and have become bosom friends. I do not know what you are trying to proof in your 2 posts. But if you do not wish to share or shed some light on the Thread Starter's query, please do not go offside.

let me make it clearER then.

I THINK I told the TS that Deadpixel has experiences doing the DIY Omni Bounced for IR Flash, and if he/she wants to get someone to teach, tell, create or even guide him/her in making or creating or securing one, he/she should approach DEADPIXEL.

THEN

I told the TS why I know that Deadpixel does such things, by sharing the information (NOT THE ITEM) that I took one of such item from Deadpixel when he was showing me. I did not claimed that i created it, i just said that I took one from Deadpixel and he had agreed to give it to me.

I do give credit to Deadpixel and would likewise to any one who had done similar things if i know of.

LASTLY :

I don't understand
"Please be reminded that this is a sharing community here. All those who have really shared have stuck together for more than 2 years and have become bosom friends.

I do not know what you are trying to proof in your 2 posts. But if you do not wish to share or shed some light on the Thread Starter's query, please do not go offside."

I know it's a sharing community. Too many times i just choose not to speak, cause i have nothing to share. So what are u trying to say? I am an outcast now from this group of "BOSOM FRIENDS"? Well... if that's the case, do tell me. At least i don't make a fool out of myself, thinking I am still welcome here.

And I am not trying to proof or PROVE anything in my last 2 posts. I am just telling the person that i am not likely going to share the thing with him/her, cause I might need it for my own things which I AM actively doing and it's the best the person would approach the RIGHT person in this case "DEADPIXEL" for help, THAT's ALL! I don't think i am going offside, at that time. Maybe now I am.

Why do you have to be so hostile towards my posts? Honestly and PERSONALLY I don't see anything wrong with my posts. And i am quite hurt by your post.

[catchlights]

can post a pix of or share how to DIY the "Deadpixel's DIY IR Omni Bounce"?

peace?

please?

[teerex]

I do not wish to go anymore offside in this thread.

Just to respond to Nisa and make it short.

I did not mention anything about an outcast. You are always welcome to join our outings and sharing sessions and to meet old friends.

Your 2 posts in reply to TS were short and abrupt. You may mean what you mean as you have replied to me. But not everyone is the same intellectually, so it would be good to elaborate a little more. Like the long reply you gave me.

Take the mistake I made in the word "proof". You took it up in your reply. The big bold MY in your 2nd post. One can see 2 sides to these.

There are people who may be interested in TS's query, like Catchlights. A very simple thing to do is give a clear description of how the DIY looks like or post a picture of the item.

Apologies to Square Moon for taking his thread offside.

This issue is closed in this thread and I do not think I was hostile.

I would like to re-iterate, nobody is an outcast here in this community. It is your choice to participate or not. We welcome people who are interested in this genre of photography and choose to stay, learn and share.

[deadpixel]

Originally Posted by Nisa try Deadpixel I took one of his DIY!

Originally Posted by Square Moon If you don't mind to share Deadpixel DIY, thanks

Originally Posted by Nisa no sharing of MY DIY!

Originally Posted by teerex First you mention that you took one of Deadpixel's DIY. Then you mention "no sharing of MY DIY". So is it yours or Deadpixel's? I do not think it is ethical to take someone's and call it MINE. Give credit to whom it is due.

...

I made the DIY bounce but gave it to Nisa, so it is in effect my idea (hence "his DIY") but her property (hence "My DIY"). ...Sigh..... We're all here to learn, share and have fun so an occasional ribbing really doesn't hurt anyone and really helps to lighten the mood. BTW, Nisa's one of the "Elders" here so she's as unlikely to steal an idea/limelight from someone else as you are.

But, as to the TS' query, here're a couple of ways that you can DIY an IR Bounce for your flash:

The quick way

1. Purchase an omni bounce for the make of your flash
2. Pick up 1 or 2 sheets of developed, unexposed slide flim (some of us may have spare to give or sell)
3. Cut away the front of the omni bounce and shave off some of the sides
4. Measure and cut the fillm to cover the modified omni bounce snugly
5. Tape or superglue the film in place
6. Take it out for a spin in a dark cinema

The tedious (more professional way)

1. Purchase 2 sheets of Edmund Long Pass (ELP) filters from Edmund Optics (about $25 each)
2. Get accurate measurements of your flash head's dimensions
3. Cut 5 pieces according to the measurements you took for the four sides and front
4. Seal them together with superglue to form a bounce cap
5. Take it out for a test run in the park during the night

That's it.

Cheers,
Matt

[catchlights]

Hey matt,

thanks for sharing...

[deadpixel]

Originally Posted by catchlights Hey matt, thanks for sharing...

No prob

I forgot to explain that this may not work with all flashes. The reason is that not all flashes have lights that cover the IR spectrum. The Nikon (and probably Canon) flashes cover the IR spectrum as they use it for command and communication signals. So, before you embark on a project to create an IR bounce for some flash, take a shot in total darkness with your flash and IR filter on. If things get lighted up in IR, then you're quite safe.

Cheers,
Matt

[adamadam]

Is this in effect, to obtain a flash invisible to our eyes? :O! ooo

[deadpixel]

Originally Posted by adamadam Is this in effect, to obtain a flash invisible to our eyes? :O! ooo

Yes

There's really no other reason for using it.

_

[RtOaNn]

cool, might give it a try.
thanks matt!

[Square Moon]

Originally Posted by deadpixel Yes There's really no other reason for using it. _

Thanks for Deadpixel for being so kind & generous to share his weath of knowledge on IR photography. Indeed his clear & detailed instructions will be beneficial to many of us.

Thanks Teerex for being the policeman...... NISA no hard feeling please. Cheers!!!

BTW, hope this tread dont end here, any new ideas and innovation are most welcome to share.

[teerex]

Originally Posted by Square Moon Thanks for Deadpixel for being so kind & generous to share his weath of knowledge on IR photography. Indeed his clear & detailed instructions will be beneficial to many of us.

Deadpixel have and will always be respected by the guys here as being unselfish and ever willing to share his vast knowledge in the IR and UV genre of photography. He taught me a lot about IR post processing.

Thank You Matt, I still remember your reply to my post on the query of what is Channel Swap when I started out.

Originally Posted by Square Moon Thanks Teerex for being the policeman...... NISA no hard feeling please. Cheers!!!

No Problem. It's my "duty" as this is My Yard.

Originally Posted by Square Moon BTW, hope this tread dont end here, any new ideas and innovation are most welcome to share.

I'm sure as time goes on, someone will come along with some new innovations.

[deadpixel]

Originally Posted by Square Moon Thanks for Deadpixel for being so kind & generous to share his weath of knowledge on IR photography. Indeed his clear & detailed instructions will be beneficial to many of us.

No prob, but it's nothing special , the fastest way to learn is to try things out and to share with others

Originally Posted by Square Moon BTW, hope this tread dont end here, any new ideas and innovation are most welcome to share.

Hee...I pretty sure there are new ideas sooner or later something else is gonna pop up

Cheers,
Matt

[deadpixel]

Originally Posted by teerex Deadpixel have and will always be respected by the guys here as being unselfish and ever willing to share his vast knowledge in the IR and UV genre of photography. He taught me a lot about IR post processing. Thank You Matt, I still remember your reply to my post on the query of what is Channel Swap when I started out.

Whaaaa! don't lidat leh, very pai seh one.

Everyone who participates in this forum is both a learner and teacher. When we contribute photos, ideas and techniques, people get to learn. Even if the photo isn't "good", we still get to learn when we look at it and analyze it and find ways to improve it. When people pick up on the ideas and techniques we share, we too get to learn more when they apply the things they learn, improve upon it and return to share.

The pupil becomes the master and the master becomes the pupil...the never ending cycle of learning.

Cheers,
Matt

[teerex]

Originally Posted by deadpixel Whaaaa! don't lidat leh, very pai seh one.

I am a straight forward person and I "speak" from my heart. Occasionally when the guys get together in outings and month end dinners we still mention your name and talk about how much you have contributed. How much you have helped us individually and as a group.

Originally Posted by deadpixel The pupil becomes the master and the master becomes the pupil...the never ending cycle of learning.

Very true Nobody is at the top in the never ending learning process.

[Square Moon]

Quote: [*]Purchase an omni bounce for the make of your flash[*]Pick up 1 or 2 sheets of developed, unexposed slide flim (some of us may have spare to give or sell)[*]Cut away the front of the omni bounce and shave off some of the sides [*]Measure and cut the fillm to cover the modified omni bounce snugly[*]Tape or superglue the film in place[*]Take it out for a spin in a dark cinema[/list]

Today I did a quick wrap round of my omni bounce with both sheets of developed, exposed (complete darken negative) & unexposed (clear negative) film. Put the covered omni bounce on my SB800 flash and fired a test shot.
But the white flash lights still can be seen, not quite like "invisible" to the eyes as I expected.

What's is wrong??