how do you deal with annoying newbies? - Page 2

LuCiDaAl · 3 Weeks Ago

Ignoring them is easy and makes you a normal human being.
Managing and guiding them is difficult but that's what makes you stand out from the rest.

GENO · 3 Weeks Ago

annoying people LOVE to ask questions not stop...just answer the opposite will do..

pedigree98 · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by bakuteh

Yes, there are all sorts of people around. Including big-headed or half-trained photographers (there are quite a few, surprisingly) who haven't posted any decent portraits or joined shoot outings and still want to act like expert. Some won very solid awards, become yaya liao, then use pictures of cats/goats/mice/freak pictures to suan newbies and GWCs here and there. Well, yes, it is becoming very entertaining and I am enjoying the show with a box of chocolates in my hands.

I think, if we can have this thread, plus that thread about GWCs, then we are heading towards something bad. I first thought this site treats members equally, but no - it is heading towards photography elitism rather than constructing a united community. I see a gradual and constant discrimination against GWCs and newbies. This is why nowadays I don't even come here. This site is getting bad to worse. Well, I won't say too much. All of you can see for yourselves. Kopitiam and PhotoShoots now have much more visitors than P&P. Three years ago it was the opposite. That answers all. People are just interested in joining shoots and not interested in sharing pics. Don't think we have a lot of members and we will be safe. Never fancy that idea. The thread hits are dropping although we have more members.

Please go on biting each other and mocking each other. We will see what happens. This is not a community all. It is like 一盘散沙. As I have mentioned before, I urge somebody to shutdown Kopitiam for the time being. This is a photo forum anyway. Why need a coffeshop? If you shut it down, people will at least concentrate more on the picture threads. Do you see any 'Coffeeshop' in photo.net, pbase, or poco? Well this is only a suggestion. Don't take it too seriously. Don't Take It Too Seriously, Okay?

2evans · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by LenzLaw

Well......we were all newbies once before.....

Everyone is a newbie starting out, but not everyone has a good "attitude".

cheryl852 · 3 Weeks Ago

labelling someone as a newbie.. hohoho.
i assume u must be a "pro" in that aspect then?

that's quite an ego thing to say.

baggiolee · 3 Weeks Ago

juz relaxed and be a happy frog.

Sion · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by happyfrog

i hate people who knows nothing and talk trash...

how do you deal with such people?

I'll try to recruit them to join my Ladder Gang.

I try to talk them into buying a ladder instead of the next L lens.

happyfrog · 3 Weeks Ago

cheryl, let me tell you how i label ppl as newbies

1. they show no understanding in any of the technical terms and it is evident in the amount of time spent.
2. perform badly and it shows in their performance/work.

it's okay to be a newbie, everyone will have their first time. but it's bad that you're a newbie with a big ego that is. i think whatever you're learning, you've got to leave your ego at the door.

and this boy thrash talk about ppl who's got years of experience and many evidence to back them up. also, this boy attacks many other ppl personally whom i respect in terms of skill and experience when he's got nothing...

anyway, i just ignore that boy... can't be bothered. still young and have lots to learn in life. let someone else deal with him. it's annoying but i'll let someone else do the job. yes, i call him a boy as he's still young. that's why i sorta give chance. every young kid makes mistake. just unpleasant to hear when a young boy like that attacks someone senior (even more senior than i am).

haha... btw, im not a pro. i'm just a hobbyist. i'm sure you are too.

night86mare · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by happyfrog

i hate people who knows nothing and talk trash...

how do you deal with such people?

i'm sorry

don't like that leh

forgive me!

night86mare · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by catchlights

but better don't teach the wrong thing if he knows nuts, I will never let it go if this happened.

but that happens all the time in clubsnap!

you must be having loads of trouble letting go of many things.

night86mare · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by bakuteh

Some won very solid awards, become yaya liao, then use pictures of cats/goats/mice/freak pictures to suan newbies and GWCs here and there.

Don't Take It Too Seriously, Okay?

night86mare · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by happyfrog

and this boy thrash talk about ppl who's got years of experience and many evidence of their evidence to back them up. also, this boy attacks many other ppl personally whom i respect in terms of skill and experience when he's got nothing...

sorry happyfrog..

please forgive me

night86mare · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by catchlights

ha! I see, too bad, I don't go to IT show sort of things....

but there are a lot of xmm there for you to shoot for free, why don't you want to go there?

catchlights · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by night86mare

but that happens all the time in clubsnap!

you must be having loads of trouble letting go of many things.

my point is when someone is talking trash, what he/she'd said maybe soon forgotten, he/she maybe forgotten too, since not everyone has the interest in photography for ten twenty years..

but teaching/telling others something fundamental not right is totally different, considering misleading other photographers, somebody has to point out the mistake. not to shame "newbie" or what, but just to give guidance to fellow photographers.

Francis247 · 3 Weeks Ago

As the famous saying by Mark Twain, “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.”

night86mare · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by catchlights

my point is when someone is talking trash, what he/she'd said maybe soon forgotten, he/she maybe forgotten too, since not everyone has the interest in photography for ten twenty years..

but teaching/telling others something fundamental not right is totally different, considering misleading other photographers, somebody has to point out the mistake. not to shame "newbie" or what, but just to give guidance to fellow photographers.

uncle catchlights, i just joking for fun..

i also know what you mean... it's not right to profess to know something when you are not sure, or not clear.. and then give others the wrong idea as well. and nothing wrong with people correcting that.. since maybe the person giving the wrong advice also doesn't know that he is wrong in the first place!

anyways, i don't really think you are talking about the same thing the ts is..

earthling82 · 3 Weeks Ago

well ... i treat photography as more of an arts expression/people skill much more than a technical field.

Therefore in my world, there is no newbie.

I would also measure my success in photography by my personal satisfaction and the people skills i pick up in the future. Money would come in if I work hard enough and expect less from people.

ortega · 3 Weeks Ago

everyone is a newbie at first

show them the right path and then sooner or later he/she will be a newbie no more
but after a while these "used to be newbies" will post about annoying newbies
the cycle never ends

give without expecting anything in return

catchlights · 3 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by night86mare

uncle catchlights, i just joking for fun..

i also know what you mean... it's not right to profess to know something when you are not sure, or not clear.. and then give others the wrong idea as well. and nothing wrong with people correcting that.. since maybe the person giving the wrong advice also doesn't know that he is wrong in the first place!

anyways, i don't really think you are talking about the same thing the ts is..

no worries.
yes, yes, everyone was a newbie before.. and everyday we are trying to learn new things..

sound like TS is referring to a particular person, which I not sure who is he/she...... anyone care to enlighten me? ok,ok, I admit I'm very kapoh

xhui · 3 Weeks Ago

Actually sometimes i think its "ok" to give a little leeway towards someone who's new to shooting or are just seeking their first help towards getting a camera? Else a bit hard to be new but need to know some technical stuffs already sometimes. For me if the "newbie" (me included still) is really earnest in learning and takes his/her learning seriously, he/she will post back a 2nd reply at least. Seen too many just posting a random question and disappearing all together. This mah, ignore loh.

3 Weeks Ago	#21
LuCiDaAl New Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 36	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? Ignoring them is easy and makes you a normal human being. Managing and guiding them is difficult but that's what makes you stand out from the rest.

3 Weeks Ago	#22
GENO Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Teddy Bear Land Posts: 2,858	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? annoying people LOVE to ask questions not stop...just answer the opposite will do.. __________________ Take both its legs down first, then cuts its tail, next is shoot between its eyes:devil:

3 Weeks Ago	#25
cheryl852 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Yishun Posts: 338	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? labelling someone as a newbie.. hohoho. i assume u must be a "pro" in that aspect then? that's quite an ego thing to say. __________________ True freedom may be having somewhere to return to.

3 Weeks Ago	#26
baggiolee Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 315	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? juz relaxed and be a happy frog.

3 Weeks Ago	#28
happyfrog Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 373	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? cheryl, let me tell you how i label ppl as newbies 1. they show no understanding in any of the technical terms and it is evident in the amount of time spent. 2. perform badly and it shows in their performance/work. it's okay to be a newbie, everyone will have their first time. but it's bad that you're a newbie with a big ego that is. i think whatever you're learning, you've got to leave your ego at the door. and this boy thrash talk about ppl who's got years of experience and many evidence to back them up. also, this boy attacks many other ppl personally whom i respect in terms of skill and experience when he's got nothing... anyway, i just ignore that boy... can't be bothered. still young and have lots to learn in life. let someone else deal with him. it's annoying but i'll let someone else do the job. yes, i call him a boy as he's still young. that's why i sorta give chance. every young kid makes mistake. just unpleasant to hear when a young boy like that attacks someone senior (even more senior than i am). haha... btw, im not a pro. i'm just a hobbyist. i'm sure you are too. Last edited by happyfrog; 3 Weeks Ago at 09:19 AM.

3 Weeks Ago	#35
Francis247 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hougang, Sengkang Posts: 5,351	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? As the famous saying by Mark Twain, “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” __________________ 莫问前程有愧,只求今生无悔. Time pasts, Places changed, Beauty faded, what is left are Photos of Memories…

3 Weeks Ago	#37
earthling82 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 184	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? well ... i treat photography as more of an arts expression/people skill much more than a technical field. Therefore in my world, there is no newbie. I would also measure my success in photography by my personal satisfaction and the people skills i pick up in the future. Money would come in if I work hard enough and expect less from people.

3 Weeks Ago	#38
ortega Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NorthEast Posts: 16,508	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? everyone is a newbie at first show them the right path and then sooner or later he/she will be a newbie no more but after a while these "used to be newbies" will post about annoying newbies the cycle never ends give without expecting anything in return __________________ The Law

3 Weeks Ago	#40
xhui Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 358	Re: how do you deal with annoying newbies? Actually sometimes i think its "ok" to give a little leeway towards someone who's new to shooting or are just seeking their first help towards getting a camera? Else a bit hard to be new but need to know some technical stuffs already sometimes. For me if the "newbie" (me included still) is really earnest in learning and takes his/her learning seriously, he/she will post back a 2nd reply at least. Seen too many just posting a random question and disappearing all together. This mah, ignore loh. __________________ License to shoot.