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Old 23rd December 2004   #41
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Originally Posted by eric69
I'm seriously considering to sell off my Nikon gears and plunge into Canon's. After being a Nikon user for close to 10 years, Nikon take such a long time to come out a decent DSLR. I'm still waiting for the successor to D100, seem like forever... Overall I think the Canon 20D looks cool as compared to D70 or D100. And I hae seem quality taken by 20D and D70/D100 taken by my kakis friends. D20 is simply awesome.
I think next year the D100 replacement coming out liao right?
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Originally Posted by epia
But I checked one of my lens, Sigma 70-300 APO Super II.. it says Nikon and Canon.. or maybe I misinterpret and it should means - different set of lens with same name for different brands?
Ur last statement is correct.

Its the same lens, but Sigma has 2 different mounts.
One is for Canon, the other is for Nikon
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Old 23rd December 2004   #43
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Originally Posted by Red Dawn
it's the one piece of equpiment i have not changed in the past 3 years.
Errr, that's because you're too rich and upgrade too often!

has been... used in heavy downpour (more than once may i add!)

You are an absolute muppet for using a high voltage electrical object in the rain. That's not just me taking the mick, that really is a serious warning to you and everyone else. To the best of my knowledge no manufacturer professes the waterproofing of their flash units even in their professional units; certainly none recommend it. And using high voltage in the wet?
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Old 24th December 2004   #44
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Omg... just when I thought I can buy 2 bodies and share the lens.............. Lol ...

Btw... Nikon must be written all over my face.. I asked for Sigma 70-300 without taking my camera out of my bag... and they straight away handed me a Nikon-mount one ....
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I agree with jed on the flash in rain bit. Dangerous if u consider the voltage of the capacitor! For the record, i do not hold my camera by the flash when not in use. Trust me, if i did, it will break everytime i do it since my setup tends to weigh upwards of 7kg, not to add with a tripod attached. Canon flashes do NOT lock properly. Just check out the mechanism and u will realise it. The best thing nikon ever did was to revise the hotshoe in the sb80dx, i hope canon does it soon too! If u have to walk great distances with the flash attached to the camera, and u are walking cross country terrain (sungei buloh or worse), my advice is to keep your flash. Get a belt pack or something. I have broken the hotshoe too many times because of vibration. When the flash is left secured by just 1/2 the hotshoe, it tends to break the hotshoe.
Btw, nikon to canon adaptors can be found in the market. No AF though.
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Old 24th December 2004   #47
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Originally Posted by szekiat
If u have to walk great distances with the flash attached to the camera, and u are walking cross country terrain (sungei buloh or worse), my advice is to keep your flash.
Wah...never thought of this. Thought the greatest strain would be on the lens mount. I walk together with the flash (SB-800), tripod and flash extender mounted. I think my trekking distance would be more than 80km liao.
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Old 24th December 2004   #48
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i switched from nikon film to digital Oly E1 (no regrets), does that count?

oops... wrong thread.

have a great christmas y'all!!
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Old 24th December 2004   #49
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normally i will switch between different brands of cameras only when one particular brand has a certain good model... haha.... that was when i use normal cameras...

now when i use dslr .... i found that i would have to stick to one brand for a long time due to investments in the lens and other accessories...

but i found both nikon and canon very good.....
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Originally Posted by Jed
Errr, that's because you're too rich and upgrade too often!

has been... used in heavy downpour (more than once may i add!)

You are an absolute muppet for using a high voltage electrical object in the rain. That's not just me taking the mick, that really is a serious warning to you and everyone else. To the best of my knowledge no manufacturer professes the waterproofing of their flash units even in their professional units; certainly none recommend it. And using high voltage in the wet?
flash uses batteries therefore its Direct current rite? usually DC dun kill but can get seriously injured if the current is high...i think DC usually repells u away from it....and AC holds u on to the object which will toast the person.... correct me if im wrong... i just remember abit of my electronic knowledge from yrs ago...lol
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Originally Posted by szekiat
The best thing nikon ever did was to revise the hotshoe in the sb80dx, i hope canon does it soon too! If u have to walk great distances with the flash attached to the camera, and u are walking cross country terrain (sungei buloh or worse), my advice is to keep your flash. Get a belt pack or something. I have broken the hotshoe too many times because of vibration. When the flash is left secured by just 1/2 the hotshoe, it tends to break the hotshoe.
Btw, nikon to canon adaptors can be found in the market. No AF though.
The SB800 has a metal shoe with the same locking mechanism, now even better and more durable instead.
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i was a switcher, Pee Cee to Mac, never been happier.
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Old 24th December 2004   #53
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Originally Posted by szekiat
i for one am starting to regret the switch from nikon to canon. After more than a year of using canon, I still like the feel of a nikon d1 series. I can't say anything about the d2h cos i never used one. But the d1 and f5, thats a whole different ball game. The 1d doesn't even come close. Not to mention the weight factor. In the super tele department, nikon is a lot of lighter. AF wise, i feel that the speed is about the same. I have yet to venture into IS (the 70-200IS gave me a major headache with prolonged use, don't ask me why), and don't seem to miss it much. My main issue with canon is its built. I've broken the hotshoe of my 550ex 2wice now, the locking mechanism just doesnt lock very well. In the process, i've also torn the hotshoe mount off my 1d and had to get it replaced. All very troublesome. Then, just 2 days ago, my 550ex started to pick up smoking while i was shooting. No seriously, its dead now. Overall, i wouldn't argue that canon is probably way ahead in the technology dept, but i just feel they are not as good at user interface and built. Just my 2c worth, not to mention i'm still pissed about the 550ex.
A full frame sensor is swell for wideangles, if canon can work on producing a decent wide angle. I'm still using a 20-35L, simply becos the 16-35 and 17-35 distortion is scary.
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Old 24th December 2004   #54
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Originally Posted by szekiat
I agree with jed on the flash in rain bit. Dangerous if u consider the voltage of the capacitor! For the record, i do not hold my camera by the flash when not in use. Trust me, if i did, it will break everytime i do it since my setup tends to weigh upwards of 7kg, not to add with a tripod attached. Canon flashes do NOT lock properly. Just check out the mechanism and u will realise it. The best thing nikon ever did was to revise the hotshoe in the sb80dx, i hope canon does it soon too! If u have to walk great distances with the flash attached to the camera, and u are walking cross country terrain (sungei buloh or worse), my advice is to keep your flash. Get a belt pack or something. I have broken the hotshoe too many times because of vibration. When the flash is left secured by just 1/2 the hotshoe, it tends to break the hotshoe.
Btw, nikon to canon adaptors can be found in the market. No AF though.
The funny thing I have the same problem but in oppsite to yours. My SB 80DX always can't lock properly so I get over expose now and then because of that as the TTL flash pins can't connect to the camera. But my 550EX never have that problem lei
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Old 24th December 2004   #55
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Originally Posted by kegler
flash uses batteries therefore its Direct current rite? usually DC dun kill but can get seriously injured if the current is high...i think DC usually repells u away from it....and AC holds u on to the object which will toast the person.... correct me if im wrong...
Don't think so. It really depends on the person. The DC from the caps is around 300-500V depending on your flash. Though you are correct to say that it is more difficult to "throw" away an energised AC object. As long as there is enough voltage to be passing through you, and there is enough currently flowing (depends on your internal resistance), anything can kill.

I had some experiences with AC shocks....my aquarium light dropped into the water and the funny thing is that the ELCB doesn't trip (maybe coz of lousy design). Now the outer metal layer is energised due to water in it and i touched it. I don't think a lot of current is flowing but the thing is that you know you are being f**king shocked like hell (i could hear myself mumbling vulgarities...think it was cbcbcbcb) but you cannot control your hand, you just hold on to it and vibrate. Luckily my wife was around and threw the ELCB to off.

I also had an incident with flash cap shock during my sec sch days. Was dismantling it and forgot to discharge. You just feel the jolt and threw it away automatically. The cap was rated 400V i think .

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Old 24th December 2004   #56
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Originally Posted by singscott
The funny thing I have the same problem but in oppsite to yours. My SB 80DX always can't lock properly so I get over expose now and then because of that as the TTL flash pins can't connect to the camera. But my 550EX never have that problem lei
Agree with this. The new twist lock mounts of the 80DX and 800 are convenient for quick and easy mount/dismount.

However, they do not ensure as secure a contact as the SB28 and older flashes which have the screw lock.(though prone to jamming)

One has to regularly check the hotshoe and tighten if necessary with the new foot. With the older units, it was nvr required.
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Old 24th December 2004   #57
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I remember my physics lecturer emphasizing over and over again that "it's the current that kills, not the voltage". Never quite fully understood the whole current vs voltage concept (yet managed to pass!) but I think in this case you can't really build up enough current from 4 AA batteries to kill yourself. I could be wrong. Yes, voltage may be high, but I remember Van de Graaf generator can generate up to 50,000 volts but you can touch and still not die.

I think a better reason not to use a flash (or any electronic equipment) in the rain is that you might kill the equipment! Now THAT's definitely been known to happen. Duh!
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Old 24th December 2004   #58
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the capacitor is a high charge one. Caps are never rated in volts anyways. Overall, the rate of discharge of a cap is really quick and the amount of charge in it is well....high. Therefore, the current is also very high. But nvm.
Overall, i agree that the sb80dx (thats my only exp) is a bit shaky at times, but the metal securing pin holds it down so u don't drop or break it. However, the 550 uses the same concept but the pin is screwd down and also spring loaded. Just go check out your 550. Canon had a reason for it. Apparently, if the shoe breaks, its cheaper for u to repair than if u tear the whole top 1/2 off if u're using a non-pro camera made of plastic, esp those with a pop up, cos all the electronics are there (at least thats what i was told). Howerver, can someone tell them that if u drop a flash from tripod level, everything made of plastic, all habis!
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Old 25th December 2004   #59
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Move from Nikon to Canon in July 2004 - learning to love my 300D more and more.
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Old 25th December 2004   #60
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hi

haha jed, u may be right about e dangers. but e shots turned out great! :P

during my first reservist, e signal officer got a dose of lightning strike. and we were very close by. and since we are always called back in e rainy months of nov / dec, i think that is a greater hazard man :P
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