Should I upgrade?

[Fudgecakes]

wow pasir ris is far for me>.< I live at Bukit Gombak, furthest I would go should be city hall area hehehe but if I do happen to travel near pasir ris well why not? haha

Bro spree lives in bishan

[quelfala]

well that is if he wants to meet xD hehe

[Fudgecakes]

well that is if he wants to meet xD hehe

Pm him lor haha

[quelfala]

Hmm... what about a D300s?

[Fudgecakes]

Hmm... what about a D300s?

Larger buffer and smaller pixel count. Better built. But not as good high oso performance

[rain5533]

Some High ISO Sample here :

D800 @ 6400


D7000 @ 6400


D300s @ 1600


D300s @ 3200 (3200 only is not 6400)

[Blur Shadow]

Larger buffer and smaller pixel count. Better built. But not as good high oso performance

Dynamic range of the D7000 is superior.

D300s has a 51-point AF. D7000 has 39-point AF.

[quelfala]

appreciate the effort of the comparisson photos. Really helped alot!

[Uncle Meng]

Some High ISO Sample here :

D800 @ 6400


D7000 @ 6400

Based on the above photos, D7K is very impressive. The noise control is comparable to, if not better than, D800.

[rain5533]

Based on the above photos, D7K is very impressive. The noise control is comparable to, if not better than, D800.

If don't have D800 in the best of ISO 6400 still the best in controller.

The only D7k lose from the detail & minor noise only.

[Sgdevilzz]

Based on the above photos, D7K is very impressive. The noise control is comparable to, if not better than, D800.

Not really. photo on D800 has got more black levels than compared to the D7000. Closer to the original colour in the photo. D7000 Black levels got overwritten, turning it purplish.

[rain5533]

Not really. photo on D800 has got more black levels than compared to the D7000. Closer to the original colour in the photo. D7000 Black levels got overwritten, turning it purplish.

hehe depend how you invest a cam... if can afford the D3s or D4 we knew is best on higher ISO and do you need this?

[Blur Shadow]

Based on the above photos, D7K is very impressive. The noise control is comparable to, if not better than, D800.

The high ISO capability of the Nikon D7000 is a far cry from the Nikon D800. Noise on the D7000 is more apparent, and the dynamic range is much narrower than the D800.

I cannot comment on rain's pictures, as I am on my iPhone and cannot call up the EXIF of his sample photos, if it is available.

What is apparent to me is that exposure and/or lighting conditions is/are different.

My own personal evaluation is that at high ISO, the DX sensors don't stand a chance against the FX sensors. (Ok, I have never used the D3x, so maybe that)

[Cowseye]

The high ISO capability of the Nikon D7000 is a far cry from the Nikon D800. Noise on the D7000 is more apparent, and the dynamic range is much narrower than the D800.

I cannot comment on rain's pictures, as I am on my iPhone and cannot call up the EXIF of his sample photos, if it is available.

What is apparent to me is that exposure and/or lighting conditions is/are different.

My own personal evaluation is that at high ISO, the DX sensors don't stand a chance against the FX sensors. (Ok, I have never used the D3x, so maybe that)

Yeah, no wonder I find it weird where the photo shot with D7000 looks much brighter than the one in D800.

[rain5533]

Yeah, no wonder I find it weird where the photo shot with D7000 looks much brighter than the one in D800.

The reason is not same length on same angle of view.
So the lighting will be blocking on closely D800 body.

For The D7000 may need putting a step behind and viewing the same angle.

FX : 50mm & the DX is 75mm on same lens.

Here got the detailed output from this both units.

D7000 cropped.


Original


D800 cropped.


The original


now you can get what i mean

[Uncle Meng]

The high ISO capability of the Nikon D7000 is a far cry from the Nikon D800. Noise on the D7000 is more apparent, and the dynamic range is much narrower than the D800.

I cannot comment on rain's pictures, as I am on my iPhone and cannot call up the EXIF of his sample photos, if it is available.

What is apparent to me is that exposure and/or lighting conditions is/are different.

My own personal evaluation is that at high ISO, the DX sensors don't stand a chance against the FX sensors. (Ok, I have never used the D3x, so maybe that)

That's exactly my point. If D7K can outperform D800 in terms of ISO performance, then why bother to go onto FX, right? But based on the photos posted by rain5533, I thought the performance are comparable. So maybe you are right, the settings are different and hence it's not a fair comparison ...

[Blur Shadow]

That's exactly my point. If D7K can outperform D800 in terms of ISO performance, then why bother to go onto FX, right? But based on the photos posted by rain5533, I thought the performance are comparable. So maybe you are right, the settings are different and hence it's not a fair comparison ...

Nah. No way can the Nikon D7000 beat the Nikon D800 at high ISO settings. This point has been validated by several notable photographers and review sites around the world.

As for the photos posted by rain, I can only conclude that:

1. It is an unfair test.
2. A higher resolution (full size crop notwithstanding) is needed do a meaningful comparison.
3. Since the scene was not of high contrast, the decrease in dynamic range is not perceivable either.

If there is one thing that the pictures prove, it is that modern DX sensors are still incredibly powerful, and that at low resolutions, one can hardly see any difference.

I habitually post pictures in FB that are shot at ISO 800 - 1250 on my old Nikon D70. To anyone familiar with this 7 year old camera, anything beyond ISO 400 is noise, noise, noise. But at low resolution of FB, one can hardly say it is a bad picture. Of course, some skills come into play, but in general, not that discernible.

Remember, back in the film days, ISO 3200 is insane. Now we have ISO 6400 by twisting the dial. With very acceptable results too.

Nevertheless, if you are after ultimate quality, go FX. No regrets there.

[rain5533]

Actually DX 16x24mm is nothing can be bet with FX 24x36mm sensor.
The price for D800 can be buy 3pieces of D7k.

The result is great but everything have to double invest on the FX lenses.

If just for entry or upgrade the only you need for DX D7000 or D3200.

That's what i can said.

[Andrew Ng]

Practically speaking, if you are not shooting Full time and just for family and hobby work, the DX D7000 is very powerful.

Cameras last 2~3 years in terms of Technology Years. Invest in lens. Not every day you shoot at ISO 1600 and above.

My recent D70s shot taken in May 2012.

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